Day 8 after last Patch ...

[Kaurhz]

if anything it's the CASUAL players that have nothing to do. Hardcore players are doing Savage which will at least be 1-3 weeks

I literally don't understand why CASUAL players are the ones who constantly defend the game's lack of content when there's barely anything to do in this game if you don't raid. Putting more content in literally benefits casuals more than hardcore raiders.

But oh wait, maybe the definition of "casual" has changed. I guess now people think casuals = ERP in Quicksand 3 hours a day and doing literally nothing else these days.

I'll bite, even though I should know better. - But I do detect a sincere discussion here, so...

Being casual doesn't really matter, especially if they're diversifying their streams of content. I would argue that a person who plays casual yet plays a diverse amount of content will have more to do than someone who is, for example, playing exclusively for raids or for some other exclusive reason - It isn't exclusive to casuals, but anyone really. e.g., for me personally, I do a lot with collecting things, especially achievements (Now I understand that this doesn't inherently align with everyone's cup of tea - But I think we can pretty easily take away that different people will define content differently) - and those who play a certain way will inherently have more content regardless whether they play hardcore or not - To put it into example, I'm currently finishing of Pteranodon, after that I'll be going for collecting the Big Fish for a little project I am doing, and then I'll probably be doing the older deep dungeons solo. - So in this respect I have plenty of content to do, and all this is because I was, for example doing all of the relics in Shadowbringers.

This is of course not to say that you should do xyz before you complain about anything, or before you have the right to do so, as I do think that is false (Unless I feel like being a little more sinister with some people) - But simply that people, depending on how they play, even just casually can still have just as much to do or enjoy as anyone else, even hardcore players. -- But then I guess this entirely depends if you description of hardcore is ascribed only to raiding, and not in the wider sense of the game

That being said, I will agree with you that, ideally, there is no reason to shut down content -- Or rather, they shouldn't be in an ideal world where we don't always need to substitute x content to get y content -- But sadly we don't have luxuries because places will always milk what they can out of a product for the most minimalistic expense possible. - In some sense you'll always have pushback because people enjoy doing y more than they did doing x

I would posit the question back to you -- What is your definition of casual, and hardcore?

[Edit: I would grant that older expansions had more longevity with the content when compared to this one, but I would also stand to argue that a lot of streams of content in these older expansions people didn't even do - Be it for time reasons, etc., and if you're going to, for example, not touch that content because it was last expansion then you're shooting yourself in the foot for a lot of playability and content]