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    Player Knot_D's Avatar
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    Jock Destroyer
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    Asura
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AnnRam View Post
    And that's why Healers in PVP mode are fun and feels impactful to play (Like Sage for example) they are pretty much a "Support/Hybrid" class rather than dot/cure/sometimes gcd bot in PVE.
    SGE sucks at Frontline and RW though... WHM SCH and AST PvP however are better healer than PvE
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    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knot_D View Post
    SGE sucks at Frontline and RW though... WHM SCH and AST PvP however are better healer than PvE
    a sch that goes unnoticed in the backline can deal a shitload of damage
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ivtrix View Post
    a sch that goes unnoticed in the backline can deal a shitload of damage
    Not really. We can make everybody else do damage, but our own damage is a joke in PvP. We only do 5K damage with a Broil, 6K with Mummification, and 3K per tick with Biolysis. But hitting people with Adlo gives 8% more damage, and hitting enemies with Biolysis reduces their damage by 8%. We're great for support, but us getting a kill is the equivalent of Ganesha getting a kill in SMITE (his passive gives the kill count and rewards for it to the closest ally nearby)...unexpected but welcome.
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Not really. We can make everybody else do damage, but our own damage is a joke in PvP. We only do 5K damage with a Broil, 6K with Mummification, and 3K per tick with Biolysis. But hitting people with Adlo gives 8% more damage, and hitting enemies with Biolysis reduces their damage by 8%. We're great for support, but us getting a kill is the equivalent of Ganesha getting a kill in SMITE (his passive gives the kill count and rewards for it to the closest ally nearby)...unexpected but welcome.
    Spread biolysis is crazy dps in frontlines. Now if you want to say that the damage aspect of that is largely worthless, I would agree! But nonetheless the damage padding for damage done on the end screen will look great!
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkdra View Post
    Spread biolysis is crazy dps in frontlines. Now if you want to say that the damage aspect of that is largely worthless, I would agree! But nonetheless the damage padding for damage done on the end screen will look great!
    The damage aspect is what I'm referring to. But the support aspect...oh man can we turn a fight into our favor (assuming team competence).
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    It's always fun to read some words that sounded like copy pasted from chatGPT or somewhere without the person trying to actually understand, let alone practice what they're writing.

    Either way: congratz to the group. RIP green dps
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    The damage aspect is what I'm referring to. But the support aspect...oh man can we turn a fight into our favor (assuming team competence).
    *Spreadlo + Expedience + Biospread* "EVERYBODY, ATTACK!!!~~~"

    *your team hides or retreat*

    "Guess I'll just die :')"
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    *Spreadlo + Expedience + Biospread* "EVERYBODY, ATTACK!!!~~~"

    *your team hides or retreat*

    "Guess I'll just die :')"
    That was me in PvP when I was trying to get Crystal rank. D:
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    Noah Orih
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    Faerie
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Not really. We can make everybody else do damage, but our own damage is a joke in PvP. We only do 5K damage with a Broil, 6K with Mummification, and 3K per tick with Biolysis. But hitting people with Adlo gives 8% more damage, and hitting enemies with Biolysis reduces their damage by 8%. We're great for support, but us getting a kill is the equivalent of Ganesha getting a kill in SMITE (his passive gives the kill count and rewards for it to the closest ally nearby)...unexpected but welcome.
    I like to think of healer damage in PVP as sort of anti-healing. You can't burst enemies down, but you're chipping away at their health and trying to cancel out their self-healing.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    I like to think of healer damage in PVP as sort of anti-healing. You can't burst enemies down, but you're chipping away at their health and trying to cancel out their self-healing.
    I thought it'd be nice if we can get some sort of attack that does not deal HP damage, but rather MP damage. More variety that is.
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    Player Ivtrix's Avatar
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    Ivtrix Impreria
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    Goblin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Not really. We can make everybody else do damage, but our own damage is a joke in PvP. We only do 5K damage with a Broil, 6K with Mummification, and 3K per tick with Biolysis. But hitting people with Adlo gives 8% more damage, and hitting enemies with Biolysis reduces their damage by 8%. We're great for support, but us getting a kill is the equivalent of Ganesha getting a kill in SMITE (his passive gives the kill count and rewards for it to the closest ally nearby)...unexpected but welcome.
    You know you can spread the dot across clumped up enemies right? in frontline all you do is sit there and wear them out
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