TOP cleared with no healers

[Gemina]

And? This isn't some gotcha that you think it is. TOP is just another example showing how poor of a state the healer role is currently in and the state of utility among DPS/Tanks being too powerful.

It's not a gotcha. The gotcha is what's being attempted by saying a set of skilled players cleared TOP without healers. Exception is never the rule. Instead of commending the efforts of those players, you are instead using it to chastise the dev team and the state of healing in this game. I can't even begin to express how shameful that is. What if TOP was cleared without players using their soulstones? Are we going to start saying that jobs are useless as well? I bring that up because Iirc, Creator was cleared by a group of players not using their Soulstones back during HW, and nothing like that was said. Those players were indeed congratulated. Also, I am actually genuinely curious to what kind of response a player would get if they went to the game's more populated areas during peak times, and started shouting this. At the very least, it would clue you in to how much the general playerbase cares about such things.

No one wants to continue playing a role that's only function is to be there for garbage dps/tank players. That's not how you design a fun and interesting role.

I enjoy it. So do a lot of other players. However, I don't think the problem is so much with healing as I do that other roles, particularly tanks have a ridiculous amount of self sustain. Also encounter design in general. Of course, the typical rebuttal to this argument is I don't even know what I am talking about, and/or I enjoy mediocre gameplay and crap job design.

There will be other MMOs coming out. I've also never seen or heard dps players or tank players fight to see who can be the healer for the next tier, as hard as I've seen healers fight over who can gtfo of the role.

Ok. Players skipping FFXIV to play other mmos will affect all the roles. Not just healers. Do you think just healer mains are going to jump ship to play other games? Also, quite often when I hop into PF when I am in the mood to heal content, those slots are often filled up, and I have to go as DPS instead, or do something else. Whose experience is more valid here?