Yoshi-P: "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate"

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I see tanks that dont use mitigation, healer curebots, white mages fishing for that sweet free cure II in a shadowbringers dungeon and black mages that go fire <-> ice

Your point being?

None of those are inherently lethal. If the party runs out of hp then it's a wipe. It won't matter how good the rest of the party are if they have no hp because the of healer. You can't really play around being dead.

[BRVV]

None of those are inherently lethal. If the party runs out of hp then it's a wipe. It won't matter how good the rest of the party are if they have no hp because the of healer. You can't really play around being dead.

Yep. That's why tanks forgetting their stance and not attacking (all) enemies is wiping

You've never tanked on a healer before?

I did. You still make no sense. Bad healer who doesn't heal (btw find me one of that with all the curebots) will kill party but you CAN play around a missing tank? Sure, Jan. You can play around a missing healer aswell. Thank you fast auto-regen between mobs and strong mit and healing on non-healers! Why do you seem to think an increased need of healing will automatically create a lot of wipes in casual content on those under-healers (that don't even exist imho)?

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Yep. That's why tanks forgetting their stance and not attacking (all) enemies is wiping

You've never tanked on a healer before?

[Payotz]

None of those are inherently lethal. If the party runs out of hp then it's a wipe. It won't matter how good the rest of the party are if they have no hp because the of healer's ineptitude.

Which is why I don't think an overhaul is a good idea. It's gonna alienate the people who like healing now and alienate the core players that are pretty casual.
The game "needs" it, but it's a bad idea to do it.

You're arguing for EXTENSIVE changes, which I'm not. I think that may be the issue. You think I'm arguing for the changes you're proposing, which I'm not.

I saw you hit the post limit there buddy. Good thing I like scrolling back.
But yeah. That's the "overhaul" I think the game needs. No amount of rebalancing and number crunching and anything would help the game.
An entire overhaul of the healing system is the only thing that can make the healing gameplay interesting.

And to be fair. An "overhaul" means extensive changes. That's why it's called an overhaul.

Loops back to my first point of:

I don't think they can even do an overhaul, cause that would require them remaking all the fights and content from HW -> EW.