The truth is we need a remastered XI or a follow up

[VelKallor]

Wildstar had a ton of issues, it just didn't deliver what's being asked in this thread Vel.

I agree, Ath...its just from my POV, MMOs that are major grindfests tend not to have a long shelf life. 2004 gameplay in 2023 is..dated. I am not sure if FF 11 would do as well these days, as a brand name maybe..but God help anyone that tries to establish that kind of game without a dedicated playerbase today.

I am told Wildstars housing was incredible, so they seemed to have nailed that part of it.

[Ath192]

I agree, Ath...its just from my POV, MMOs that are major grindfests tend not to have a long shelf life. 2004 gameplay in 2023 is..dated. I am not sure if FF 11 would do as well these days, as a brand name maybe..but God help anyone that tries to establish that kind of game without a dedicated playerbase today.

I am told Wildstars housing was incredible, so they seemed to have nailed that part of it.

Thats good, the other thing I want to point out is that XI wasn't the type of hardcore people envision in terms of difficulty. It was a very slow game. It was more a game of forethought. Like maybe you wouldn't want to leave X city before you are done with the stuff you need to do there because it's a journey to make it to the next one and coming back would take a while.

Kind of like, if you were a real adventurer, in a fantasy world that has its horse equivalents and some forms of public transportation that actually work like real public transportation services.

[Amenara]

I agree, Ath...its just from my POV, MMOs that are major grindfests tend not to have a long shelf life. 2004 gameplay in 2023 is..dated. I am not sure if FF 11 would do as well these days, as a brand name maybe..but God help anyone that tries to establish that kind of game without a dedicated playerbase today.

I am told Wildstars housing was incredible, so they seemed to have nailed that part of it.

Even FFXI had to change for the times. You can do pretty near everything except the highest end content solo with trusts which before the 2010s, as pointed out earlier, is not the case. There are major grindfests still in FFXI (looking at you mythic weapons...) but thankfully the leveling and story isn't a part of that anymore.

Also Wildstar's housing was probably the best iteration of housing in a game period. Highly recommend looking up the crazy things people did with it on youtube.

[Ransu]

Even FFXI had to change for the times. You can do pretty near everything except the highest end content solo with trusts which before the 2010s, as pointed out earlier, is not the case.

Ya, the good ole days of CoP being impossible to do because all the chapters had random level caps that required appropriate level gear so good luck ever getting any help with those.

You had to spend 4 hours feeding a chocobo before you could get your chocobo license for a chocobo that you had to rent and was on a 30 minute timer and rent fees were based on volume of players renting at the time and if you were trekking on foot you better have a stack of oils and powders on you.

Leveling required a party of 6 which a lot of times forced jobs like red mages and even summoners to be the party healer even though that wasn't their job and the community came up with dumb ideas like making a ninja a tank, but 99% of ninjas never purchased ninjitsu scrolls so they could never hold threat, especially after SE made the change to utsusemi where it loses enmity with each shadow destroyed.

Trekking through Gustaburg and the Highlands to get to Valkurm Dunes was EASILY a 30-40 minute run. God help you if you aggroed something and pray to God your leveling party doesn't get tired of waiting for you and find someone else nearby lmao.

Hope you kept your old leveling gear because if you're in a leveling party and that one random goblin walks through and blows everyone up and you level down, guess who's now naked!?

lmao I loved FFXI to death, but whenever I think back on it all I think of is pain. That game was nothing more than a chore to play.