I got termination ban but I thought it was too harsh

[kaynide]

Have you guys never seen a company make false bans

I mean, sure it’s possible.

But it’s also possible to go through the logs and see what actions OP did with time stamps…and if the craft took exactly 12.23 seconds (or whatever) each time that is logically not something a human with variable click speeds would do.

[hunkygladiator]

…and if the craft took exactly 12.23 seconds (or whatever) each time

Even minor ping fluctuations can offset this. There's no way for them to use timestamps to detect botting because bots aren't that precise either.

About the only time anything like this has even reasonably incriminated anyone in FF14 is when FFLogs banned the rank 1 BRD (or MCH, forgot) because they used sprint at an oddly specific timeframe or something and even that had enough variance that made some people believe it was flimsy evidence (and that was only a tipping point evidence rather than the sole evidence that got them banned).

If OP told the whole story, it's beyond 99% certain that they got banned not because of timestamps. It's probably 1000x more likely that they got banned because they didn't respond to a GM, or they crafted "too fast" (if they were using mouse macros to do the entire rotation instead of utilizing in-game macros, it'll be like 16% faster than macro-crafting) and raised suspicions because people are used to witnessing slower craft speeds. That may lead to them being banned on suspicions of speedhacking even though they're just automatically manually crafting.

Regardless though it's just bizarre so many of you place so much trust in this game's moderation in terms of never making false positives. If OP got perma'd because the GMs think they did something more severe than mouse macros, it's pretty likely they detected wrongly.

I mean this is the company that did this in ARR.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...mounts-of-gil/

IMHO the two likeliest scenarios are that OP is not telling the whole story, or they got perma'd because the GMs think, wrongly, that they did something beyond mouse macros.

[Ath192]

Even minor ping fluctuations can offset this. There's no way for them to use timestamps to detect botting because bots aren't that precise either.

About the only time anything like this has even reasonably incriminated anyone in FF14 is when FFLogs banned the rank 1 BRD (or MCH, forgot) because they used sprint at an oddly specific timeframe or something and even that had enough variance that made some people believe it was flimsy evidence (and that was only a tipping point evidence rather than the sole evidence that got them banned).

If OP told the whole story, it's beyond 99% certain that they got banned not because of timestamps. It's probably 1000x more likely that they got banned because they didn't respond to a GM, or they crafted "too fast" (if they were using mouse macros to do the entire rotation instead of utilizing in-game macros, it'll be like 16% faster than macro-crafting) and raised suspicions because people are used to witnessing slower craft speeds. That may lead to them being banned on suspicions of speedhacking even though they're just automatically manually crafting.

Regardless though it's just bizarre so many of you place so much trust in this game's moderation in terms of never making false positives. If OP got perma'd because the GMs think they did something more severe than mouse macros, it's pretty likely they detected wrongly.

I mean this is the company that did this in ARR.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...mounts-of-gil/

IMHO the two likeliest scenarios are that OP is not telling the whole story, or they got perma'd because the GMs think, wrongly, that they did something beyond mouse macros.

I agree, this person was probably crafting out of bounds in the middle of the ocean next to the limsa aetheryte while yelling RMT ads in a metallic green dye outfit. I exaggerate of course, but whatever it was it must have been hella sus.