Quote Originally Posted by Lunaxia View Post
I mean... there's good advice here and elsewhere in the thread, but OP specified most of the players are new to raiding and I can't help but think this would suck a lot of the fun out of the whole experience for them as sprouts starting on the raid scene, not to mention potentially intimidate or overwhelm them. He also said they are friends, so I doubt advising him to treat the whole deal like a business transaction and view members as disposable commodities is what he's looking for.

We all have our own preferences for playing, of course, and what we're hoping to get out of it, but some of it seems kind of cold, and even as a more experienced player it sounds like a good way to make Savage a bit of a miserable experience. Not everyone is out purely for the drops; some people actually want to have a good time with friends as well.
Yes, I was very cold and objective. And I get the emotional appeal you are going for. This develops organically, or doesn't, based on each individual group and their dynamics/how they treat each other. I can't advise on that because that's up to them and how they interact. He asked for advice on raiding with a static and I gave him how to break down the math of raiding and objective metrics to test their mettle and commitment to the cause.

I can't tell you how to have fun, but I can tell you how you may increase your chances of succeeding. If I just told him to have fun and be happy that wouldn't be much help would it? But yes, I hope they do have fun and are happy.

A lot of people find succeeding fun and rewarding. And to counter your point I've known people that thought they were friends and then their static can't clear and they start hating each other and never talk again. That sounds pretty miserable as well doesn't it? So all we can do is hope and give people tools so they have an easier time in their goals.