Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
Yes, one button that is only used on two abilities and provides no flexibility adds no depth.
Just as Celesti already pointed out (and other few hundreds people in the past year in SAM threads), they removed Kaiten and didn't alter Kenki generation. Kenki that would go to Kaiten just goes to Shinten. Instead of making sure you have 20 Kenki ready and don't overcap it, now you just need to make sure you don't overcap it. This is definition of removing depth and nuances. Combination of these small nuances create healthy and gradual skill curve.

I'm proud that you barely ever run out of Kenki for Kaiten, but keep in mind there are Ice mages, free-style SAMs, TBN-less DRKs, freecure fishers, NIN's which drifts the CDs so hard that you can hear eurobeat whenever you come close to them, and more. Simple thing like Kaiten can be difference between bad player and average casual.

Doing X before every Y isn't best design, but keep in mind that this game has 4/19 jobs which have rotation made of 1-2-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-repeat, we have 2.5 worth of tanks split into 4 tank jobs, we have no real CC and similar effects, and few last DoTs in game are lining up to a chopping block. Ship with good job design has already sailed.

If you want similar examples:
- PLD always uses Goring blade under FoF.
- Requiescat and Faith combo is always used with FoF
- Double down, Sonic Break and Bow Shock is always used under No Mercy
- Ten Chi Jin (ability) has 3 possible combinations, yet you always use the same one

Only difference is that Kaiten was locked behind resource, while these example are locked behind CD (with DD locked behind both CD and resource), but in the end, you can fuck up all of them, which adds small, but not insignificant depth to the jobs.

But don't worry, those 3 pairs of exact same skills, which are just ST/AoE versions of themselves, are definitely good design and not a button bloat.

And most importantly, SE still didn't even respond to quite a hefty amount feedback which they specifically asked for. At this point, I would be happy if they at least said that something other than Shinten spam is coming in 7.0.