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    6.08 Hissatsu: Kaiten Give it back !!! obviously, mhm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    I don't like logs being public, but here's my sam from last tier.

    https://i.imgur.com/Q59GjvM.png

    Satisfied?
    Think Ransu posted them before on the DPS sub-section.

    We could give Leifei's pages the same courtesy regarding logs. During " Asphodelos " all 62 clears ( which is impressive ), are all NIN during a time when Kaiten wasn't removed before patch 6.1. " Abyssos " logs after 6.1 Kaiten removal, Leifei magically starts playing SAM. Still only 7 clears on SAM vs 14 NIN purely based off of the Logs. Funny observation. After Samurai became easier without Kaiten, starts playing Samurai. I mean I guess.

    Most argument points to support " Kaiten " removal have been debunked for over a year
    • Button Bloat / Action Bloat
    • A button you press every-time
    • Flawed due to increasing margin of Error
    • Weaving issues and Latency
    • You just press it after every Iaijutsu
    • Kaiten did not provide any complexity
    • It's going to be replaced with something at some point trust Square
    • Kaiten was simultaneously to easy and to difficult ( what... )
    The best argument so far? has been " I just don't find Kaiten fun ", because Fun is subjective. Yet not a single soul wants to argue how " Shinten and Kyuten Spamming " is improved and more complex Gameplay over Kaiten, as it is bordering imbecilic to compare being a gorilla on a unicycle pressing 1 button over and over as great gameplay vs Kaiten. It's moronic. But that's what it has become, idiotic witless spamming.

    Hence give us back Kaiten as they never should have removed it until they have something better to replace it with. And replacing Kaiten is definitely not impossible, but it's a tall order to fill the emptiness that Kaiten removal has left for a lot of Samurai's, mhm.
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    Last edited by CelestiCer; 05-15-2023 at 11:36 PM.

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