Endwalker is pretty great

[RyuDragnier]

You can comment however and whatever you feel like on threads. You can also make your own threads for anything and whatever.

The issue they're pointing out is that this thread is made purely as a reaction thread to other threads. The thread does not feel geniune, it feels forced(especially with the inaccurate comparison of IS to Orthos to Eureka/Bozja). A lot of the OP's post reeks of trying to be unique and different, rather than for the sake of putting something accurate and genuine forward.

Just going to point out, the negative ones have done this multiple times themselves. "Play other games " and "Im really glad we have years worth of content to pl...oh" are two examples on the front page right now.

[Absimiliard]

People that feel unheard, patronized, mocked, or marginalized tend to turn to turn to sarcasm and mockery as communication strategies themselves.

[EliaStormblade]

Endwalker's just fine to me, but things could of course be better. Some things really should be better.

The relic needs at least a few steps where it's not tied to just tomes. Maybe the new criterion, or what have you. Island Sanctuaries should offer more than glorified gathering; it feels very barebonesy. At the same time, I feel like they should rip off the bandaid and slowly work towards making it facilitate instanced housing, because they're already most of the way there. Criterions? I don't know. It seems like they require very little change to be good. Just give them a worthwhile reward structure. Not sure what to do with Variant, though. I personally don't think it's worth the development if it's just going to be the "12 branching paths" meme, but in reality it's just doing 3 paths over and over again with slight alterations until you get a mount. I feel like they could spend that time more wisely.

[RyuDragnier]

People that feel unheard, patronized, mocked, or marginalized tend to turn to turn to sarcasm and mockery as communication strategies themselves.

Is that why the same few individuals have made at least 7 complaint threads?

[Hurlstone]

Just going to point out, the negative ones have done this multiple times themselves. "Play other games " and "Im really glad we have years worth of content to pl...oh" are two examples on the front page right now.

I think reactionary threads are more or less part of the course for forums. Negative ones can bore positive ones, and vise versa. Troll threads will cause others to attempt baits of their own etc. Plus there are times when a thread can become so… toxic that it because either intimidating or neigh on impossible to try and add meaningful debate.

The thread does not feel geniune, it feels forced(especially with the inaccurate comparison of IS to Orthos to Eureka/Bozja). A lot of the OP's post reeks of trying to be unique and different, rather than for the sake of putting something accurate and genuine forward.

I personally disagree with that feeling in regard to this thread, and to be fair if we had to judge every thread by that standard then at least half of the topics would end up disappearing completly from the forum haha.

[Saraide]

People that feel unheard, patronized, mocked, or marginalized tend to turn to turn to sarcasm and mockery as communication strategies themselves.

You're neither unheard nor marginalized by forum posters. The other two definitely happen tho.

[Absimiliard]

You're neither unheard nor marginalized by forum posters. The other two definitely happen tho.

I haven't claimed to be, although I was certainly on the receiving end of a great many baseless insults and accusations during the Garlean debates, back in Stormblood. :P Some people get uppity over opinions. It's an unfortunate part of human nature.

Is that why the same few individuals have made at least 7 complaint threads?

Honestly? Probably is. Speaking purely objectively, if you look back through the forum's history, there truly has been a long-standing bias against posters with negative opinions. I'm not saying they've always been nailed to the proverbial wall, but the bias has been there. It seemed to get worse over the years, too. It reached a point where speaking critically of the game could indeed earn you some rather nasty backlash from others -- the more well-presented the criticism, the greater the backlash tended to be.

In more recent times, those offering criticism of the game have seen a bit more acceptance. They're still mocked by some posters, but definitely not as many. It's never really been the majority doing it anyway. Having said that, mixed in with the valid criticism is a bunch of pointless drivel, which people keep using as justification to shut down legitimate, well-meaning statements as to the current state of the game or its elements.

Oh, as a disclaimer, I'm not talking about the one dude with twelve-billion accounts that keeps making faux complaint threads. That guy is out to kick all of the hornet's nests, and it seems to be working. I figured at least one person would try and take this post like that, so uh... yeah, just stating the obvious. Definitely file that one away under pointless drivel, although I'd be lying if I said they've never once made a valid point.

[TowaIsBestGirl]

Huh. Whenever someone makes a negative thread and people disagree with them they're told "go make a positive thread, and stop harassing those that have issues" and yet, sure enough when someone does make a positive thread, what's the first thing that happens? "Why are you making a positive thread? you're just harassing people that have complaints."

How exactly are people that enjoy the game supposed to comment then?

I'd imagine that one of the most glaring flaws in this approach is that half of OP's post is highly inaccurate and ill-researched. If the points being made cannot stay true to the information at hand to players then a suspicion of laziness, reactionism and contrivance is inevitable. The timing could be better too, but that's too possibly coincidental for me to legitimately criticize I feel.

People that feel unheard, patronized, mocked, or marginalized tend to turn to turn to sarcasm and mockery as communication strategies themselves.

Or they do so just to lash out. Which, while hardly the best way to conduct oneself it as least understandable. I'd personally at least attempt to advise against it, mind, as it harms one's present and future credibility.

[BRVV]

Didn't like EW but will give credit where it's due: having the new zones be distinctive is nice. Except from the "edge of the universe"-zone (100% edgelord) & the moon being somewhat similiar due to both being in space, all the zones are vastly different. Made progress through the MSQ more enjoyable and returning for FATEs better.

Portraits are cool. Don't know why they have to reset when i change a piece of equipment despite being linked to a gearset. Too many lewd portraits for me but that's a community problem.

I don't do ULTIMATEs but have also heard that they seem to be the best ones so far. A lot of the high end players seem to like them.

Island Sanctuary is something different and refreshing, that probably most casual players like more then Bozja or the like. I still haven't tried out IS and it isn't for me so i will probably never will but i am happy for others.

• Endwalker's Story
  Not much left to say that hasn't already been said. Endwalker's MSQ put a very neat bow on the story so far

My biggest gripes are with the story but i won't reiterate it here. This comment i don't get. Do you repeat it from the devs? They claimed that EW will finish the story thus far... but did it? It just made up it's own new thing and made up stuff as it went along. I really would like a different writing team.

[Absimiliard]

Or they do so just to lash out. Which, while hardly the best way to conduct oneself it as least understandable. I'd personally at least attempt to advise against it, mind, as it harms one's present and future credibility.

It really doesn't help in the long run, but salty people gonna salt. They're welcome to damage their own credibility. It's just unfortunate that doing so somehow seems to damage the credibility of people with similar opinions whose ways of putting them to word are more acceptable, whatever those opinions may be.