Endwalker is pretty great

[Boblawblah]

Why is it when ever there's some complaints on the forum we get one of these?
You're allowed to like those things but this feels like it's a reaction to people validly criticizing the game

Huh. Whenever someone makes a negative thread and people disagree with them they're told "go make a positive thread, and stop harassing those that have issues" and yet, sure enough when someone does make a positive thread, what's the first thing that happens? "Why are you making a positive thread? you're just harassing people that have complaints."

How exactly are people that enjoy the game supposed to comment then?

[ZephyrMenodora]

Huh. Whenever someone makes a negative thread and people disagree with them they're told "go make a positive thread, and stop harassing those that have issues" and yet, sure enough when someone does make a positive thread, what's the first thing that happens? "Why are you making a positive thread? you're just harassing people that have complaints."

How exactly are people that enjoy the game supposed to comment then?

Oh, they don't want happy players here at all.

[NekoMataMata]

Huh. Whenever someone makes a negative thread and people disagree with them they're told "go make a positive thread, and stop harassing those that have issues" and yet, sure enough when someone does make a positive thread, what's the first thing that happens? "Why are you making a positive thread? you're just harassing people that have complaints."

How exactly are people that enjoy the game supposed to comment then?

You can comment however and whatever you feel like on threads. You can also make your own threads for anything and whatever.

The issue they're pointing out is that this thread is made purely as a reaction thread to other threads. The thread does not feel geniune, it feels forced(especially with the inaccurate comparison of IS to Orthos to Eureka/Bozja). A lot of the OP's post reeks of trying to be unique and different, rather than for the sake of putting something accurate and genuine forward.

[RyuDragnier]

You can comment however and whatever you feel like on threads. You can also make your own threads for anything and whatever.

The issue they're pointing out is that this thread is made purely as a reaction thread to other threads. The thread does not feel geniune, it feels forced(especially with the inaccurate comparison of IS to Orthos to Eureka/Bozja). A lot of the OP's post reeks of trying to be unique and different, rather than for the sake of putting something accurate and genuine forward.

Just going to point out, the negative ones have done this multiple times themselves. "Play other games " and "Im really glad we have years worth of content to pl...oh" are two examples on the front page right now.

[Hurlstone]

Just going to point out, the negative ones have done this multiple times themselves. "Play other games " and "Im really glad we have years worth of content to pl...oh" are two examples on the front page right now.

I think reactionary threads are more or less part of the course for forums. Negative ones can bore positive ones, and vise versa. Troll threads will cause others to attempt baits of their own etc. Plus there are times when a thread can become so… toxic that it because either intimidating or neigh on impossible to try and add meaningful debate.

The thread does not feel geniune, it feels forced(especially with the inaccurate comparison of IS to Orthos to Eureka/Bozja). A lot of the OP's post reeks of trying to be unique and different, rather than for the sake of putting something accurate and genuine forward.

I personally disagree with that feeling in regard to this thread, and to be fair if we had to judge every thread by that standard then at least half of the topics would end up disappearing completly from the forum haha.

[ForteNightshade]

You can comment however and whatever you feel like on threads. You can also make your own threads for anything and whatever.

The issue they're pointing out is that this thread is made purely as a reaction thread to other threads. The thread does not feel geniune, it feels forced(especially with the inaccurate comparison of IS to Orthos to Eureka/Bozja). A lot of the OP's post reeks of trying to be unique and different, rather than for the sake of putting something accurate and genuine forward.

This is the impression I walked with myself. Now it may not have been OP's intention, and I fully acknowledge that. What led me to that conclusion though is how their praise is largely contained to small pieces of content instead of the whole thing.

Take their Island Sanctuary paragraph. There's no mention towards the content itself (positive or negative) but rather a focus on outdoor furnishing as a major addition? That... shouldn't be a selling point when praising an expansion. Even Ultimate sort of falls under a similar category. Despite being someone who does all of them, they make up a disproportionally small amount of the playerbase. In fact, last I checked, TOP barely managed 1% and DSR 2-3%. Now I want to emphasis this is not, inherently, a bad thing. It's content for a specific subset of the playerbase with minimal develop cost per Yoshida's own words. That being said, it's hard to praise an expansion on the basis of Ultimate when so few players will ever touch the content. Ultimate is more that second dessert you indulge in after going out to dinner. It's a treat but not the main course.

Then you have the Eureka/Bozja comparison to... Island Sanctuary? That doesn't even make sense. The two are widely different pieces of content with completely difference targeted demographics. If you're going to try making a comparison, Criterion was sitting right there and while it still doesn't really work, it certainly fits better than Island Sanctuary. Speaking of which, I noticed the lack of Criterion. A lot of hardcore players I know liked the content... but not the rewards. I find it a bit interesting there was no mention of it whatsoever.

Perhaps I'm entirely wrong here and none of this was a response to the uptick in negativity but that's my takeaway.

[TowaIsBestGirl]

Huh. Whenever someone makes a negative thread and people disagree with them they're told "go make a positive thread, and stop harassing those that have issues" and yet, sure enough when someone does make a positive thread, what's the first thing that happens? "Why are you making a positive thread? you're just harassing people that have complaints."

How exactly are people that enjoy the game supposed to comment then?

I'd imagine that one of the most glaring flaws in this approach is that half of OP's post is highly inaccurate and ill-researched. If the points being made cannot stay true to the information at hand to players then a suspicion of laziness, reactionism and contrivance is inevitable. The timing could be better too, but that's too possibly coincidental for me to legitimately criticize I feel.

People that feel unheard, patronized, mocked, or marginalized tend to turn to turn to sarcasm and mockery as communication strategies themselves.

Or they do so just to lash out. Which, while hardly the best way to conduct oneself it as least understandable. I'd personally at least attempt to advise against it, mind, as it harms one's present and future credibility.

[Absimiliard]

Or they do so just to lash out. Which, while hardly the best way to conduct oneself it as least understandable. I'd personally at least attempt to advise against it, mind, as it harms one's present and future credibility.

It really doesn't help in the long run, but salty people gonna salt. They're welcome to damage their own credibility. It's just unfortunate that doing so somehow seems to damage the credibility of people with similar opinions whose ways of putting them to word are more acceptable, whatever those opinions may be.