Zepla about FFXIV Relic and Square Enix not taking any Risks

[SassyAssassin]

I can understand the endwalker hate, it is worse than shadowbringers, but why is shadowbringers getting hate? Personally it was my favorite expansion together with heavensward, I loved the story, locations, the new female Viera race, it felt like it had more engaging content, the characters were better and I thought it was the expansion that had the most players including people coming over from wow, so what was prophetic about it?

[SturmChurro]

I can understand the endwalker hate, it is worse than shadowbringers, but why is shadowbringers getting hate? Personally it was my favorite expansion together with heavensward, I loved the story, locations, the new female Viera race, it felt like more engaging content, the characters were better and I thought it was the expansion that had the most players including people coming over from wow, so what was prophetic about it?

Shadowbringers as an expansion sucked. There was barely any content, Viera and Hrothgar were promised updates, and never got any until the end Yoshida said they were "looking into it". AT LEAST Shadowbringers had a little bit of content, Endwalker effectively has no content.

[Sheriyana]

Shadowbringers as an expansion sucked. There was barely any content, Viera and Hrothgar were promised updates, and never got any until the end Yoshida said they were "looking into it". AT LEAST Shadowbringers had a little bit of content, Endwalker effectively has no content.

For Shadowbringers the base expansion MSQ carried the whole expansion, all of the patch MSQ was terrible except for maybe 5.3. The Viera and Hrothgar launch was embarrassing, probably still wouldn't have head gear to this day if some devs hadn't worked behind Yoshida's back to make it happen for launch. They put a lot of resources into crafting and gathering content that took away from battle content. Bozja was decent enough, the trial series was okay, even though the story was pretty bad. The Nier stuff was awful, at least we got some decent glams out of it, the actual raids were okay, except the last one was dreadful, but I maintain it all had no place in the XIV universe, they just wanted to cash in on the Nier Automata popularity. But like Sturm pointed out, compared to Endwalker Shadowbringers had a wealth of content.

[Nizzi]

I can understand the endwalker hate, it is worse than shadowbringers, but why is shadowbringers getting hate? Personally it was my favorite expansion together with heavensward, I loved the story, locations, the new female Viera race, it felt like it had more engaging content, the characters were better and I thought it was the expansion that had the most players including people coming over from wow, so what was prophetic about it?

The massive homogenization and gutting of a lot of jobs for one

[ForteNightshade]

Honestly I've been shocked just how entrenched the argument that one of the best things about the game is in fact how little content is being added is becoming

It's the freedom of accessibility people like. Which I can appreciate, especially for those with a very limited amount of free time. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with that... except when they expect others who want actual reasons to play the game to agree with them. If you don't have the time to do everything, cool. Make choices on what content you like most and put the rest aside. What irks me is they want content to basically be easily completable in all of a weekend so they don't feel they're missing out when they play other games. Which is fine... for them but for the rest of us, we're left with a hollow game. Like I said in my response, Endwalker is the first time I feel I have to play other games regularly because even if I wanted to spend more time on FFXIV, I have nothing to do.

And before someone rushes in with the "take breaks!!!!" or "why don't you unsub then!?!?!" I want to actually play FFXIV. No, not every hour of every day, 365 days a year. I'd like a five month patch cycle to have roughly half that length of content. I don't feel it's unreasonable to expect 2-2.5 months of lasting content over a five month period. Note I said "lasting content," i.e., having things with longevity not five hundred different new things.

For example sake, Island Sanctuary should have lasted at least two months, propped up with different ways to interact with your animals, crops and the general upkeep you'd expect from a farming simulator. Sure, it was never going to be as robust or innovative as Stardew Valley or Animal Crossing but nobody should expect that. You can still implement the core ideas and build off them. After all, Yoshida openly claimed the dev team themselves were inspired by actively playing Animal Crossing during the pandemic. So it's downright baffling that supposed inspiration resulted in the barebones, mobile game knockoff that is Island Sanctuary. Seriously, IS is more on par with Farmville than Animal Crossing. What's sad is you had more customization options in Farmville.