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    Quote Originally Posted by Velvet_Lunarfang View Post
    who cares about Zepla and what she says. I can't even stand her
    Rent free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deo14 View Post
    Rent free.
    Seems better than paying something so it can continue to live in your head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Seems better than paying something so it can continue to live in your head.
    Feel free to stop repeating that tired excuse already. As people have pointed out, showing the door to consumers with criticism doesn't lead to improvement. If everyone who critisizes the game leaves, who will be left to provide feedback for the devs? The white knights are more than happy to watch the game die, they'll be happy if there's no content whatsoever as long as they can afk in their houses or Limsa, or do 10 year old content for no reason other than to do it.
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    I think criticism would be better received if it was well presented and not in such a way where it seems to focus more on theatrics and shock value.

    The general atmosphere on the forums aren't really constructive to criticism and based on a lot of the behavior here I'd gather the dev's don't even come here at all, and just leave these forums for people to vent and can otherwise ignore most of the posts here.

    I feel the same way about how the posters here widely treat one another - full of insults or just a general tone not really conducive to listening to one another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheriyana View Post
    Feel free to stop repeating that tired excuse already. As people have pointed out, showing the door to consumers with criticism doesn't lead to improvement. If everyone who critisizes the game leaves, who will be left to provide feedback for the devs? The white knights are more than happy to watch the game die, they'll be happy if there's no content whatsoever as long as they can afk in their houses or Limsa, or do 10 year old content for no reason other than to do it.
    How many years have certain posters been complaining about the same things? What has come of those complaints in that time?

    If the content that is getting released isn't satisfying to you for some reason, that's a fair statement. What you enjoy is subjective to you. Let them know how the equivalent content in the past was satisfying to you and why the new content is letting you down.

    But if you're truly unhappy with the overall state of the game, repeating feedback already given does nothing. The best criticism you can leave about a game occurs when you stop paying and playing. You're saying that you've had enough. The game quality has suffered so much in your eyes that it is no longer worth your time or money. Enough other players quit playing, leaving similar feedback, and the corporation will finally acknowledge there are problems.

    Very few here in the forums defending the game are white knights. They'll acknowledge that there is room for improvement in the game where a white knight will deny that any faults exist. But where you and others are no longer enjoying the game, they still are. Despite the problems they're still having fun and don't see that changing any time soon. The things you see as problems likely don't have a negative impact their game play and so they aren't concerned.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    A lot of the things people like in the game are actively being removed at the behest of those insisting everything is fine, though. I liked Bozja. I liked Eureka.

    People leave feedback to get more of what they'd like to see and most MMO's at least throw more of a bone to account for varied tastes.
    But what percentage of the player base felt the same way? Participation doesn't always align with satisfaction when there's a highly desired reward at the end. I know of more players going into Eureka this expansion than going into Bozja/Zadnor yet neither group is very large compared to those I know that are doing other content.

    Then there were the players who were complaining in Shadowbringers that Bozja/Zadnor replaced what could have been a new Deep Dungeon, which is what they enjoy. So they got their new Deep Dungeon while the exploratory zone fans missed out this expansion.

    I can't see either of those groups being happy with just "a bone".
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 05-06-2023 at 07:37 AM.