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    Aries Helle
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Let's not forget that when the expansion launched there were issues with...basic mathematics. Summoners losing dps during Phoenix phase, one of WHM's spells upgrading into a damage downgrade, etc.

    FFXVI better be worth everything that FFXIV players have gone through.
    Ugh, yeah but I don't have a PS5 so thats like a $480 game for me since I'm a PC gamer. Sucks. Still unsure if I'm getting all that, but I do want to support SE putting out M rated titles. Its the first mainline FF to be mature rated, and quite frankly, the fans of the franchise are mostly older people than teenagers at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Let's not forget that when the expansion launched there were issues with...basic mathematics. Summoners losing dps during Phoenix phase, one of WHM's spells upgrading into a damage downgrade, etc.

    FFXVI better be worth everything that FFXIV players have gone through.
    Imagine if being a regular XIV subscriber gave you a Square premium account that allowed for discounts and access to free SE games as a thank you for paying for nothing for 5 months straight haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shialan View Post
    I don't get it. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life than creating shitpost after shitpost?
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir_Tonberry View Post
    Genshin Impact a free to play mobile gatcha game puts out events every 40 days that are fully voiced and an engaging story. FF which is a subscription game with a full price tag does like 5 events a year and still can't put 10% of the effort. Something is wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshida-san
    Let's consider another theoretical mod: one that displays your character entirely naked.

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    Oh, you have nothing to do?

    play other games
    play other games
    play other games
    play other games
    play other games













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    Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
    Oh, you have nothing to do?

    play other games
    play other games
    play other games
    play other games
    play other games













    They need to sell shirts at fan fest that say that TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    They need to sell shirts at fan fest that say that TBH.
    Do you guys honestly think there are players that play ffxiv and only ffxiv nothing else? Yoshi said this and its been a poor gag for too long now
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    Death Is Only The Beginning....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonteCristo View Post
    Do you guys honestly think there are players that play ffxiv and only ffxiv nothing else? Yoshi said this and its been a poor gag for too long now
    I only support this for the Irony of it....
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    Namissa Minami
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Also, Bozja had a far better story than EW
    Fixed that for you ^.^ Well honestly I didn't enjoy the Bozja story THAT much but the base EW story was just insultingly terrible.

    More on topic, I'm not Zepla's biggest fan but she does echo a lot of points people have made here and that I share myself too. I find myself being able to relate a little with liking how it's easier to get the weapons now but it leaves a huge chunk of content missing, I wasn't always enjoying Bozja (those 15 delubrum runs per weapon was murder) but I spent a lot of time engaged with that content. The rewards weren't nearly as good as Eureka but you could always get something for your time beyond relic progression too. Shadowbringers already felt devoid of content but now that chunk missing too, Endwalker is left with barely anything, same core stuff we've had since ARR, except less dungeons, less beast tribes, and the one and done content that are actually new like Island Sanctuary and Variant/Criterion. Hell in Shadowbringers I spent a decent chunk of time gathering in Diadem, compare that to like Island Sanctuary and it's such a miserable experience, painfully slow with only one gather per node and one item gathered each time so you spend so much time just running around. I kept hoping that with the better tools we'd at least gather 2 items per swing but nope, couldn't even make that rewarding, just the same nodes but now there's a new item there, yay... And of course a new node or two but yeah, just pure misery all around.
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    How does being told to grind out Level 90 or Alliance Raid roulette 15 times make for a better relic weapon stage than being told to purchase 3 of X item for 500 tomestones each?

    In the case of MrHappy's example of tomestones being okay as one option of multiple to complete a stage, which of the above methods would you have picked given the choice?

    Doing the roulettes would result in the tomestones needed but you wouldn't be able to use the tomestones to purchase other items. If you needed the tomestones to buy something (such as crafting materials for end game gear), you'd actually have to do more content that the roulette option would require you to do. You've been given reason to play the game more.

    Now story-wise I agree this relic chain feels kind of cheap. How convenient that Rowena's rep just happens to already have exactly what we need to get.

    Is that maybe the real difference this time? The other relic chains did make it feel like some sort of quest/adventure for us to get what was needed to craft those increasingly powerful weapons. There's no adventure or mystery to this one and that's why it feels uninteresting.
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    Sieya Mizuno
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    Who is Zepla?
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