Zepla about FFXIV Relic and Square Enix not taking any Risks

[ForteNightshade]

It's like everyone has completely forgotten that games not named Final Fantasy 14 even exist. Instead of asking for infinite content here, which isn't even possible, play a different game while you wait for more content here.

This is such a tired and lazy "rebuttal". Nobody is asking for infinite content but rather for content to have some degree of longevity. People want a reason to log in and actually play the game. Speaking for myself, I played plenty of different games throughout Heavensward, Stormblood and Shadowbringers but I never felt I needed to, Covid delays notwithstanding. Endwalker, on the other hand, doesn't have enough content to last a week much less five months. Which is something that goes unacknowledged a fair bit here. The patch cycles have gone up a full month from Stomblood yet there is less lasting content.

[jameseoakes]

This is such a tired and lazy "rebuttal". Nobody is asking for infinite content but rather for content to have some degree of longevity. People want a reason to log in and actually play the game. Speaking for myself, I played plenty of different games throughout Heavensward, Stormblood and Shadowbringers but I never felt I needed to, Covid delays notwithstanding. Endwalker, on the other hand, doesn't have enough content to last a week much less five months. Which is something that goes unacknowledged a fair bit here. The patch cycles have gone up a full month from Stomblood yet there is less lasting content.

Honestly I've been shocked just how entrenched the argument that one of the best things about the game is in fact how little content is being added is becoming

[Ath192]

Honestly I've been shocked just how entrenched the argument that one of the best things about the game is in fact how little content is being added is becoming

This is just a really dumb take people keep hanging on to in order to cope.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Honestly I've been shocked just how entrenched the argument that one of the best things about the game is in fact how little content is being added is becoming

I think you are misunderstanding. I think the point is generally 1. No game in existence is going to keep up with the appetite of gamers who play 7 days a week X hours a day. 2. There is a lot of content to be enjoyed, players just may not be interested in some or even most of it. That doesn't mean there is no content.

And yes, I do appreciate this game is easy to keep up in, so I can enjoy interests outside FFXIV without feeling so behind. Like in Lost Ark they complain about having so much "homework" as they call it, it's taking over their time and lives and it's unhealthy. There they complain about having too much repetitive content they have to do to keep up or risk being gatekept out of new content entirely by the other players.

[Ath192]

I think you are misunderstanding. I think the point is generally 1. No game in existence is going to keep up with the appetite of gamers who play 7 days a week X hours a day. 2. There is a lot of content to be enjoyed, players just may not be interested in some or even most of it. That doesn't mean there is no content.

And yes, I do appreciate this game is easy to keep up in, so I can enjoy interests outside FFXIV without feeling so behind. Like in Lost Ark they complain about having so much "homework" as they call it, it's taking over their time and lives and it's unhealthy. There they complain about having too much repetitive content they have to do to keep up or risk being gatekept out of new content entirely by the other players.

But you can develop content that doesn't gatekeep. Bozja is an example. It was fun, midcore and you can skip right over it if you want to get to endwalker.

[ZephyrMenodora]

But you can develop content that doesn't gatekeep. Bozja is an example. It was fun, midcore and you can skip right over it if you want to get to endwalker.

I'd support them developing this type of content for sure. I didn't personally enjoy Bozja but it seems a good number did, so that is fair feedback.

[jameseoakes]

I think you are misunderstanding. I think the point is generally 1. No game in existence is going to keep up with the appetite of gamers who play 7 days a week X hours a day. 2. There is a lot of content to be enjoyed, players just may not be interested in some or even most of it. That doesn't mean there is no content.

And yes, I do appreciate this game is easy to keep up in, so I can enjoy interests outside FFXIV without feeling so behind. Like in Lost Ark they complain about having so much "homework" as they call it, it's taking over their time and lives and it's unhealthy. There they complain about having too much repetitive content they have to do to keep up or risk being gatekept out of new content entirely by the other players.

Honestly at this point your just gaslighting, the game has hacked back it's content it has very little in engage in even casually.

[Stormpeaks]

Honestly at this point your just gaslighting, the game has hacked back it's content it has very little in engage in even casually.

That's everything this dude does really, he'll spend his entire time telling you how great it is that you dont have to play the game thanks to its amazing content (that they dont do, since they dont play the game)

"This game is amazing, it lets me play every other game in my library, and I dont even have to play it, what a great game !"

[jameseoakes]

That's everything this dude does really, he'll spend his entire time telling you how great it is that you dont have to play the game thanks to its amazing content (that they dont do, since they dont play the game)

It really does seem to be so common now for people to say the best thing about the game is that they don't play it, but in a good way

[ZephyrMenodora]

Honestly at this point your just gaslighting, the game has hacked back it's content it has very little in engage in even casually.

If you want to dismiss what I said by calling it "gaslighting" so you don't have to think further, by all means. I am a casual player and I can still find hours a day of things to do if I want to, and for the past few months have. (I still have many classes to level, so just doing all the roulettes alone is already a HUGE chunk of time for someone who isn't 90 everything).

No I call it gaslighting as your trying to push the idea that having more content makes the game a job which is an outright lie

I can see how you think I said that, but that was not my intention. I'm just saying I like the general lack of grind needed to stay somewhat current. I personally do not want or need to be playing FFXIV 40+ hours a week. But sure, they could add more content that doesn't require this.

That's everything this dude does really, he'll spend his entire time telling you how great it is that you dont have to play the game thanks to its amazing content (that they dont do, since they dont play the game)

"This game is amazing, it lets me play every other game in my library, and I dont even have to play it, what a great game !"

I don't play the game? I have 1000 hours logged in XIV. A lot of which was since Endwalker.

Before I typically just finished the story *edit: and available trials/raids at the time*, levelled WHM and SMN to max and moved on until the next expansion. I'm playing more than ever. Again, way to just talk out of your butt lol.