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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    Endsinger itself would not be enough for an Ultimate, they're basically multiple fights mashed together. I think it's usually like, five.

    I could debatably see a 'Final Days' Ultimate focused around a retelling of Amaurot's end in the Minstrel's elaborate, fanfic-y way. Although if I were writing it I'd probably base it more around the Ancients; so no jacked-up Zenos, but yes to a jacked-up Hermes.
    Normally it's a series of fights. Yet I'm not sure how many would call TOP multiple fights. It's more of a continuation of a fight where the only break happens right when Alpha shows up. Even then you don't have much time to try and prepare for the last part. As it's get the heck out of where the death wall was and instantly get ready for Omega to go back on the attack. What I mean with being able to prepare is that most Ultimates during a phase transition give you some time to try and refocus and relax before the next thing your fighting starts auto attacking or throws out its first mechanic. Yes, I know TOP so far is the only one to go against the norm and that it would probably be a bit tougher to do something similar to TOP with Endsinger. Just that they have now made it possible to try and do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SannaR View Post
    Normally it's a series of fights. Yet I'm not sure how many would call TOP multiple fights. It's more of a continuation of a fight where the only break happens right when Alpha shows up. Even then you don't have much time to try and prepare for the last part. As it's get the heck out of where the death wall was and instantly get ready for Omega to go back on the attack. What I mean with being able to prepare is that most Ultimates during a phase transition give you some time to try and refocus and relax before the next thing your fighting starts auto attacking or throws out its first mechanic. Yes, I know TOP so far is the only one to go against the norm and that it would probably be a bit tougher to do something similar to TOP with Endsinger. Just that they have now made it possible to try and do so.
    I mean even TOP is basically, from a design perspective, 'a bunch of different boss fights stitched together'. It's just that unlike the other Ultimates, the fights that comprise TOP were all against the same guy so they can put them together more seamlessly.

    It's not that they won't do Endsinger Ultimate because Endsinger is just one figure. It's that they won't do Endsinger Ultimate because that's only one boss fight. It just doesn't give them enough to work with and build from (and from a development economy perspective, barely any assets to recycle for the fight).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
    It's not that they won't do Endsinger Ultimate because Endsinger is just one figure. It's that they won't do Endsinger Ultimate because that's only one boss fight. It just doesn't give them enough to work with and build from (and from a development economy perspective, barely any assets to recycle for the fight).
    They could potentially combine Endsinger with the various Abominations/Terminus we've fought in MSQ. Or perhaps with Hermes himself, who shows up to prevent us from destroying Endsinger, and after his phase he merges with Endsinger for the final form. Assuming of course the finale in Pandaemonium doesn't also link back to the Final Days (I have a feeling it will).
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