FFXIV Job Design Feedback

[ty_taurus]

That was discouraging.

I thought it was really interesting at the very least. Maybe I just shouldn't put it here next time.

[ForsakenRoe]

That was discouraging.

I thought it was really interesting at the very least. Maybe I just shouldn't put it here next time.

Just think about it the way I do: Endwalker's message was 'never give up, even when all hope seems lost', and that one person can be enough. He seems rather ambivalent, and completely fine with 'the Final Days' destroying things re: Jobs, possibly because it's not happened to a job he mains. As soon as DNC and MNK get obliterated by godawful design decisions, maybe he'd start paying attention more. Or maybe he'd just hop mains to something else

Least Serenaya was willing to look at the responses, even if he disagreed with... basically everybody's suggestions. But that's what surveys are for I guess, finding everyone's responses and finding the gems in the dirtpile

[VentVanitas]

As soon as DNC and MNK get obliterated by godawful design decisions, maybe he'd start paying attention more. Or maybe he'd just hop mains to something else

I've got some bad news LOL. MrHappy has always been fine with how MNK has played and rarely if ever says anything negative about the job, even when it was complete garbage in Shadowbringers. You could probably SMN-ify Monk and he would still play and be fine with it.

[ty_taurus]

Least Serenaya was willing to look at the responses, even if he disagreed with... basically everybody's suggestions. But that's what surveys are for I guess, finding everyone's responses and finding the gems in the dirtpile

When a company gathers data officially, that's exactly what they do. Written feedback does not mean "do exactly as everyone says." As the expert, it's your job to parse through that data and identify key stress points that are generating a negative response. Generally, you'd have a community feedback manager with a small team whose entire job is about collecting all that data, parsing through it, and deliver a report that filters through what aspects should be adjusted in a future update. That should go without saying, I think.

[Frodnoxx]

As much as I wish this wasn't the case, what MrHappy said isn't completely untrue. As far as I know, this forum - being the official one - would be the most likely place that any feedback from the community would be taken into consideration by the devs. Now I don't know about JP side, but despite this being the place to go, it feels like the devs very much ignore what goes on here judging by their outgoing communication. Or they say "we hear you, but we're not going to do that," in the live letter. Or it is a passing remark in a Q&A: "Healers don't like their rotation? Hmm. I think I do remember hearing something along those lines before... Anyways." Because of this lack of an outlet of any consequence, the threshold of how much a person must want to voice their feedback before they actually do is much higher.

OP, I really appreciate and support the effort put in to push for feedback to heard. I don't know if it's a language barrier getting in the way, or a culture difference, or a prioritization of communities, but we who want change have to temper our expectations of Square Enix.