FFXIV Job Design Feedback

[VentVanitas]

As soon as DNC and MNK get obliterated by godawful design decisions, maybe he'd start paying attention more. Or maybe he'd just hop mains to something else

I've got some bad news LOL. MrHappy has always been fine with how MNK has played and rarely if ever says anything negative about the job, even when it was complete garbage in Shadowbringers. You could probably SMN-ify Monk and he would still play and be fine with it.

[ty_taurus]

Least Serenaya was willing to look at the responses, even if he disagreed with... basically everybody's suggestions. But that's what surveys are for I guess, finding everyone's responses and finding the gems in the dirtpile

When a company gathers data officially, that's exactly what they do. Written feedback does not mean "do exactly as everyone says." As the expert, it's your job to parse through that data and identify key stress points that are generating a negative response. Generally, you'd have a community feedback manager with a small team whose entire job is about collecting all that data, parsing through it, and deliver a report that filters through what aspects should be adjusted in a future update. That should go without saying, I think.

[Frodnoxx]

As much as I wish this wasn't the case, what MrHappy said isn't completely untrue. As far as I know, this forum - being the official one - would be the most likely place that any feedback from the community would be taken into consideration by the devs. Now I don't know about JP side, but despite this being the place to go, it feels like the devs very much ignore what goes on here judging by their outgoing communication. Or they say "we hear you, but we're not going to do that," in the live letter. Or it is a passing remark in a Q&A: "Healers don't like their rotation? Hmm. I think I do remember hearing something along those lines before... Anyways." Because of this lack of an outlet of any consequence, the threshold of how much a person must want to voice their feedback before they actually do is much higher.

OP, I really appreciate and support the effort put in to push for feedback to heard. I don't know if it's a language barrier getting in the way, or a culture difference, or a prioritization of communities, but we who want change have to temper our expectations of Square Enix.

[VentVanitas]

I wouldn't get too discouraged honestly, if you've ever seen any video MrHappy has done on jobs then it's always been apparent that he lets changes just wash over him and be easily placated by whatever SE does in that department.

We'll see for ourselves if it doesn't amount to anything or not, considering the state of PvE gameplay is the most forefront criticism the game is facing as of now. Am I huffing copium? Perhaps.

[fulminating]

I mean he’s got his reputation for a reason.

[Sebazy]

Mr Happy rarely says anything negative about the game that Yoshida hasn't already admitted to.

Too afraid of losing that influencer relationship IMO.

[ty_taurus]

Mr Happy rarely says anything negative about the game that Yoshida hasn't already admitted to.

Too afraid of losing that influencer relationship IMO.

Not that he even bothered to look at the thread of course, but it's not like the feedback documents are entirely negative. BLM, RDM, and DRG all have very strong overall reception, and while other jobs tend to have more mixed scores, there are several that still have modes of 10 across the board, like WAR.

[ForsakenRoe]

As I mentioned previously, I did ask in Arthars' chat but he didn't see the message and I'm not the kind of person to spam it over and over until I get timed out. Xeno might give it a look, no doubt he'd have a great time getting hella mad about people's ideas for the tanks.

Not that he even bothered to look at the thread of course, but it's not like the feedback documents are entirely negative. BLM, RDM, and DRG all have very strong overall reception, and while other jobs tend to have more mixed scores, there are several that still have modes of 10 across the board, like WAR.

Will be interesting to compare DRG to the 7.0 version, wonder if it'll also drop like a rock, like SMN did, or if it'll sort of stay 'ok i guess' like PLD

[ty_taurus]

As I mentioned previously, I did ask in Arthars' chat but he didn't see the message and I'm not the kind of person to spam it over and over until I get timed out. Xeno might give it a look, no doubt he'd have a great time getting hella mad about people's ideas for the tanks.



Will be interesting to compare DRG to the 7.0 version, wonder if it'll also drop like a rock, like SMN did, or if it'll sort of stay 'ok i guess' like PLD

I'm very curious to see the reworks for DRG and AST. I know there's a lot of doubt in how those will turn out, but I have a lot more faith in DRG than I would most other jobs.

[Oizen]

I mean thats the FFXIV community in a nutshell though, if you express any discontent about this game they spit venom really quickly.