Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
I'm not sure why you can't stand the reality that the game *is* thriving, or why you seem so desperate to want it to fail, but it's doing beyond fine. Queues are fast anytime, even when I queue for very specific and less-played things like the 1st and 3rd NieR raids. Hunt trains are filled even at "off-peak" times like weekday mornings.

And no, just because something provides a "decent" sample doesn't mean it's useful for general extrapolation. Statistically, that sample needs to be "random" for it to work, and limiting your data solely to those players voluntarily choosing to play through Steam destroys any semblance of it being random. Also, if YOU want to claim Steam data is valid, the impetus is on YOU to prove that people using Steam are similar to those using different launchers (Hint: they aren't). You don't get to make an invalid claim and then say it's up to others to prove you wrong; that's not how mature adults debate something.



We can't even do that, since PC players can use either Steam or the SE launcher, which were introduced at different times, and which tend to attract different types of gamers with different levels of interest in genres such as MMOs.



Minus the ridiculous hyperbole of "hemorrhaging," it's true of every MMO in existence that the playerbase spikes when new expansions or patches release, and then gradually drop over time. It is physically impossible to create enough content at the rate no-lifers will consume it. It's not even close. There will always be those that blow through anything that gets added and then unsub. They're also a small minority of the larger playerbase that doesn't have any significant impact on the community at large.
We can't even do that, since PC players can use either Steam or the SE launcher, which were introduced at different times, and which tend to attract different types of gamers with different levels of interest in genres such as MMOs.
Yes because its well known that the person behind a computer is entirely different if they play the steam version or the standalone version /s

You can keep coping all you like

They're also a small minority of the larger playerbase that doesn't have any significant impact on the community at large
You really live in a different world do you ? Your vision of this game is absolutely biased in every way possible and you are literally convincing yourself that the game is doing so well and is thriving, you actually are delusional, and it's pretty scary to see