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    We lost 70% of our player base half a year in



    People have been saying make healers more engaging since Shadowbringers, and it’s been ignored.

    People have been saying endgame is horrible with lack of content and it’s been ignored.

    People want better hairstyles and headgears on the new races and it's been ignored.

    After an ENTIRE year of receiving player feedback and FAILING to do what the community wants, now we have them scrambling to fix critical bugs after bugs like the housing lottery bug.

    What a joke.

    I wanted FF14 to thrive, I loved Stormblood but the game is dying and on it’s way out.

    Square Enix, changes need to be made FAST.

    NOT in 7.0, NOT in 8.0, it needs to happen THIS EXPANSION or you WILL lose the remaining player base.
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    steam only accounts for maybe 15% of the community
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    steam only accounts for maybe 15% of the community
    Unless you think Steam players and official launcher players have extremely different playstyles and personalities the trend should be similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Unless you think Steam players and official launcher players have extremely different playstyles and personalities the trend should be similar.
    Correct that is exactly what we are saying. Steam numbers is pittance compared to official launcher. Do even a modicum of research please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hunkygladiator View Post
    Unless you think Steam players and official launcher players have extremely different playstyles and personalities the trend should be similar.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ket-Xil View Post
    Correct that is exactly what we are saying. Steam numbers is pittance compared to official launcher. Do even a modicum of research please.
    Why? What is it about logging in via a different launcher that suddenly makes this sample of the playerbase unique from the rest? Why would logging in via Steam somehow make them less appeasable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    steam only accounts for maybe 15% of the community
    Data point is still a data point. Shouldn't simply be dismissed outright.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Data point is still a data point. Shouldn't simply be dismissed outright.
    Yes, it can be dismissed because Steam's data only looks at concurrent players. Players who have booked their PTOs for the expansion launch will obviously play less after that which makes the concurrent count lower. But that doesn't mean the active count went down by 70%. OP is just a doomer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by icemage View Post
    Yes, it can be dismissed because Steam's data only looks at concurrent players. Players who have booked their PTOs for the expansion launch will obviously play less after that which makes the concurrent count lower. But that doesn't mean the active count went down by 70%. OP is just a doomer.
    The active count might not have gone down by 70% but it is absolutely not at the same levels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    steam only accounts for maybe 15% of the community
    I actually don't think it's even double digits. It's a really small part of the community, which makes sense as there's only negatives associated with buying the game through another arm of DRM.

    Game isn't any less healthy than the same point in StB or ShB though, anyone saying otherwise was probably not here. There's significantly more people around and groups up than the doldrums of 4.1 and 5.1, when Yoshi P said the game is still growing he wasn't running PR, it is.

    Deliberately lying about your products health and status would also be an easy way to get it in trouble, this is why Blizzard simply stopped reporting numbers instead of starting to lie.

    Now I just wish the unacceptably thin early expansion content would grow with it.
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    Last edited by Mapleine; 06-25-2022 at 08:03 AM.

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    Bell Jee
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryouma17 View Post
    steam only accounts for maybe 15% of the community
    yeah and we used to say the raid community is 2% lol
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