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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    If you knew what it mean, you wouldnt have to use google to help you so apparently you dont know what it means,
    Yeah dude, showing you that you have no idea what you're talking about by showing the definition of a word means that I didn't know what it means... ? I was using Google to help you lil bro, you made the claim that "books make no sense" on Scholar because you have zero clue what the word "scholar" means.

    besides you and that fuminating it gets so tiresome hearing yall annoying repetitiveness about sage being sch clone , ast is a clone too of whm and was a clone too of sch/whm when it had dual stance, we get it yall love yall precious sch mains but for god sake just leave the ones who like sage alone , its not going anywhere so deal with it. When I say copy am not even talking about the summons, but both it and smn had things from arcanist branch. You lvl smn/sch or and the other auto lvls without you having to lvl them, that show how poor skill designed that was. Every other job had no branching things and had to be lvled by themselves.
    It is a Scholar clone; I don't know why that makes you so mad nor do I care, but it is a matter of fact that SGE is a SCH clone. I don't care about AST being a clone of WHM and SGE being a SCH clone does not stop you from liking it, you freak out at every little mention of Scholar, and of course Scholar is going to be mentioned when talking about SGE because SE made the distinction of "barrier healers" and "pure healers", so SCH is the comparison. You've also edited your post like 3 times now because you're seething so hard, calm down.

    Sch was a clone from arcanist at one point, cause it had some of the kit so clone is clone.
    You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about LMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    Yeah dude, showing you that you have no idea what you're talking about by showing the definition of a word means that I didn't know what it means... ? I was using Google to help you lil bro, you made the claim that "books make no sense" on Scholar because you have zero clue what the word "scholar" means.



    It is a Scholar clone; I don't know why that makes you so mad nor do I care, but it is a matter of fact that SGE is a SCH clone. I don't care about AST being a clone of WHM and SGE being a SCH clone does not stop you from liking it, you freak out at every little mention of Scholar, and of course Scholar is going to be mentioned when talking about SGE because SE made the distinction of "barrier healers" and "pure healers", so SCH is the comparison. You've also edited your post like 3 times now because you're seething so hard, calm down.



    You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about LMAO
    your the one that sound angry am quite fine, I do not need your help on how to google something, so its more like your being rude and insulting people knowledge without even knowing a person. Your really one instigator lol, and dont call me lil bro am quite grown tyvm. You have so much time on your hands that you copy and paste everything a person say so that you can use that back against them editing? Talk about get a life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    your the one that sound angry am quite fine, I do not need your help on how to google something, so its more like your being rude and insulting people knowledge without even knowing a person. Your really one instigator lol, and dont call me lil bro am quite grown tyvm. You have so much time on your hands that you copy and paste everything a person say so that you can use that back against them editing? Talk about get a life.
    I hit the "reply with quote" button baby bro and it saved what you wrote, it's not rocket science. You don't sound fine at all when you act like a child every time Scholar is mentioned. You okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nizzi View Post
    I hit the "reply with quote" button baby bro and it saved what you wrote, it's not rocket science. You don't sound fine at all when you act like a child every time Scholar is mentioned. You okay?
    you are a child, your playing a lalafell and one more time stop calling me lil bro , also go on my ignore list you may now continue to make wortheless replies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    you are a child, your playing a lalafell and one more time stop calling me lil bro , also go on my ignore list you may now continue to make wortheless replies.
    I am playing a lalafell my son, astute observation! I accept your concession.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    If you knew what it mean, you wouldnt have to use google to help you so apparently you dont know what it mean either. Sch was a clone from arcanist at one point, cause it had some of the kit so clone is clone.
    They knew what it meant, they put the picture as evidence that corroborates what they are saying. Don't be obtuse just for the sake of it, it makes you look petty (changing your signature after getting called out for it is also pretty petty btw)

    As for SCH/SMN, 95% of the things in game point to SMN being the one that should have been standalone, and ACN reworked to be the base form of SCH. SCH and ACN jobquests take place in Limsa, SMN randomly shunts you off to Gridania. SCH and ACN are
    both based on the idea of 'use logic, facts, reasoning etc to create a battle strategy that can turn the tide of even the most hopeless encounter', the prerequisite for being a SMN in lore is 'be present at the death of a primal and absorb some of it's aether'. Technically, everyone in Eorzea is capable of this due to Bahamut's aether raining across the entire continent when he blew up. But the SMN NPCs we meet in the 60-70 questline (Immortal Flames who were at Ifrit's death), to my knowledge, have little to no training in Arcanima, yet they can create Egis too.

    They've reworked ACN to fit with SMN's gameplay more now and that's fine, but the only sign originally that pointed to the idea that 'if they were going to make ACN more like one than the other, it should be SMN', was that ACN was a DPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by IceBlueNinja View Post
    Sch was a clone from arcanist at one point, cause it had some of the kit so clone is clone.
    Dude stop I can't breathe this is too funny, 'Job is clone of {job's base class}' what a take. In case you were being sarcastic though, here's a picture I knocked up several months ago illustrating the learn levels of certain skills for SCH and SGE, and what the skill does. Notice how so many of them line up in their function, like how Dawn and Physis are both 'aoe regen, 60s CD' or level 74 gives you 'button on 90s CD that gives you one use of gauge spender for free'? That is why people say SGE is a SCH clone. Hell, the shielding potency of Eukrasian Diag/Prog is the same strength as Adlo/Succor respectively, the only difference is the base heal is weaker (because SGE has access to non-Eukrasian variants). But the maths works out that the shields are identical strength.



    edit: oh wow I didn't realize what a minefield this thread became while I wasn't looking jesus christ
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    Last edited by ForsakenRoe; 04-16-2023 at 04:18 PM.

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    Hmm, if we’re going that logic of having a title of something-healer is a clone……nah, that dumb to even consider that thought.
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