I know ARR was cut down but it really needs more done with it.

[Deo14]

I still argue that cutting out quests is the bad call,what SE needs to actually do is seriously rework the quests to be less boring.

Literally 90% of the msq quests are just go talk to this npc from ARR all the way to EW. As much as I love this game's story, I personally recall having to take long breaks from the game within each expansion just because of how tiresome and mundane the questing experience was, even if the story itself was engaging.

Dont argue for cutting quests out, rather tackle at the heart of the source and have the designers design better and more engaging quests while still keeping the plot points intact.

It's very, very late for that. Reworking all quests, from ARR to EW is just so unrealistic, all we can hope is that 7.0 forward will be more engaging. For now, taking out the garbage from the most problematic part of the game, the ARR, is the most effective and realistic solution, even if it means scrapping some lore. After all, there is no point of the story if player quits before it finishes.

Actually show me some examples of people quitting in ARR rather than just saying it because you said so

I don't know why would you ask for pointless examples, you should ask for statistics if you want to prove something, but here you go, first few google results.

- https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ing_ffxiv_and/
- https://steamcommunity.com/app/39210...3332723117754/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme..._hw_is_so_bad/
- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards...eborn/78930684 This one has poll with 62% going "They could trim it down more."
- https://steamcommunity.com/app/39210...1204140137950/
- Me back in ~2014

As for some statistics, FFXIVcensus has some data which are related to when the players quit. You join GC at MSQ level 20, yet ~69% (nice) of player characters don't even have any GC:

https://ffxivcensus.com/#grandcompany

Obviously this has more of an indicative value, since it counts characters, not players, and it doesn't take into account players quitting in level range of 21-50 and so on. But considering you asked for random examples instead of actual data, I doubt you mind that.