Length MSQ from all the expansions - it is getting insane

[VelKallor]

Copium is strong I see, lets keep finding excuses shall we ?

"steam charts isnt right"
"the game released later !!!"
"wow is worse !!!"

I can go on and on

Can you? Great. Now...can you go on AND ON....THEN tell us just WHAT it is you are trying to prove here?

Literally, whats the end result here you are trying to attain? What exactly is it you are trying to say here?

Whats your POINT?

[Sotaris]

Can you? Great. Now...can you go on AND ON....THEN tell us just WHAT it is you are trying to prove here?

Literally, whats the end result here you are trying to attain? What exactly is it you are trying to say here?

Whats your POINT?

Wow good FF bad, more or less. That's what I'm getting from this.

cOpIuM unga bunga

[Stormpeaks]

Wow good FF bad, more or less. That's what I'm getting from this.

cOpIuM unga bunga

If you want to say steam charts arent valid, please respond to this

It is a factor because it decides if looking at steam charts is valid or not. If the people are largely the same and like/dislike for the same reasons then looking at steam numbers is valid. The cutoff point for statistics being good enough to not fall pray to statistical errors is at roughly 800 people for sample sizes. Way above that and you dont need to fear statistical errors skewing your results. What sample size wont account for is systematic error. If you want to invalidate using steam charts as sample you need to show that stormpeaks only refering to steam charts is commiting a systematic error. You would do that by showing that console and standalone players have significantly different interests/tastes.

I will wait.

[Sotaris]

If you want to say steam charts arent valid, please respond to this



I will wait.

What's up with the negative and passive-aggressive tone?

So you made an edit.
Cool.

Valid perhaps was a poor choice of words from me but my point was that solely using Steam as a stat to display that FF has much lower subscribers are, again disingenuous when you know there are much more people playing the game on a regular PC license and console.

[Stormpeaks]

What's up with the negative and passive-aggressive tone?

So you made an edit.
Cool.

Valid perhaps was a poor choice of words from me but my point was that solely using Steam as a stat to display that FF has much lower subscribers are, again disingenuous when you know there are much more people playing the game on a regular PC license and console.

I agree, but its still valid to use steam charts because there is absolutely no difference in activities from a player on a computer, on PS5 or any other console, there literally isnt, which makes it valid.

It gives a trend which is my point.

[VelKallor]

Ill ask again: WHAT is it you are trying to prove here? Literally...WHERE are you going with this?

You are throwing all these figures around..but are yet to tell us WHY this is so important...what is it you are trying to show here?

[Shinkuno]

Ill ask again: WHAT is it you are trying to prove here? Literally...WHERE are you going with this?

so you dont even know whats argued anymore but still your first reaction is to defend square. And you want to say you arent a blind fanboy?

[VelKallor]

so you dont even know whats argued anymore but still your first reaction is to defend square.

Now Im curious...exactly what is it I am supposed to BE defending exactly? This makes as much sense as this "copium" meme..i.e none.

And you want to say you arent a blind fanboy?

Never have been never will be. As can be seen by my prev posts, I have stated this several times. Do I enjoy FF 14 a lot more than other games? Yes.

This is..news?

[CStrife912]

I mean doesn't it also have to take into account that yeah WoW came out in 2004 true and its an 80m registered difference between the two..however there is something else you can bring into this. The MMO market back then was massively different to when 14 came out and that is fact. WoW was ahead of the curb at the time of its release and for a good while, it made sense it dominated in registration numbers for the longest time and only in the last 7-10 years have we seen that trend completely plateau with new competition etc.

There are other factors like people who played now becoming late 30s or early 40s and wanting to move on, or growing disinterested, burned by 3 bad expansions back to back to now get a semi decent one because blizzard screwed the pooch too many times. There are a lot of variables, heck in FF14 will go through a similar situation with its players and EW feeling like the closure a lot of players wanted and that is fair.

There are many users here who have blind disdain for the game currently and that's fine, its opinions at the end of the day just let the haters malt a bit because end of the day if you love the game or you want to support it, its still going to be there for you.

[Sotaris]

Now Im curious...exactly what is it I am supposed to BE defending exactly? This makes as much sense as this "copium" meme..i.e none.



Never have been never will be. As can be seen by my prev posts, I have stated this several times. Do I enjoy FF 14 a lot more than other games? Yes.

This is..news?

Don't you know Velkallor, if you don't parrot negativity towards the game = copium.

There are many users here who have blind disdain for the game currently and that's fine, its opinions at the end of the day just let the haters malt a bit because end of the day if you love the game or you want to support it, its still going to be there for you.

To further add to that, even if I cringe at the word malt, is that I think it's odd people who has such a disdain for a game, yet still subscribe to it in order to spread negativity on it's official forum. At least it gives me some laughs, so I guess.. Thank you?

so you dont even know whats argued anymore but still your first reaction is to defend square. And you want to say you arent a blind fanboy?

Not sure how you came to the conclusion they're trying to defend anyone by asking a completely valid question with all this back and forth.

Aren't you just going to parrot cOpIuM which you done multiple times already?