Length MSQ from all the expansions - it is getting insane

[Saraide]

If we look at the steam chart numbers they are fairly stable between the endwalker patches. We're down from the massive endwalker release spike. Call me a crazy person or whatever but retaining those numbers was never realistic, the game has left its niche status and with that comes people who drop it after the main update. If JP population is stable aswell then steam users and console users might not be so different afterall.

[Dikatis]

Well, game numbers aside, the OP's argument that the game should be more alt-friendly and that content should be uncoupled from the MSQ would require a fundamental shift in the way the dev team handles its development cycle. Which is to say, unless they're given a REALLY goodreason to believe that there's a lot of money in it, it's highly unlikely that it'll change now.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

I've just been struggling a bit in this latest conversation what the basis is for using Steam numbers as a predictor of anything except trends among Steam users, because we don't have the numbers for other platforms so it seems to be a big blind spot.

This is why it makes no sense. Steam Numbers, are for STEAM Users. Its been brought up multiple times that there are people who play on Playstation Consoles (4 & 5), and then there are people who play on the Official Launcher. All these Steam Charts do, is target Steam Users. It does not factor other Users of the Playerbase, its not an entirely accurate representation. But for some reason the rebuttal or "Defense" is Copium, (I dont understand how this is a defense or a point at all) and Its a Trend. Which...ok sure, cute.....but you still arnt factoring in the Entire Playerbase. Maybe Steam has the biggest userbase, but we can't prove that unless we have all the Numbers.

Even then...who knows, maybe the number isnt even that big.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Well, game numbers aside, the OP's argument that the game should be more alt-friendly and that content should be uncoupled from the MSQ would require a fundamental shift in the way the dev team handles its development cycle. Which is to say, unless they're given a REALLY goodreason to believe that there's a lot of money in it, it's highly unlikely that it'll change now.

There is no reason to have Alts considering how the game Functions.
But honestly, even with that said the game could stand to be more Alt Friendly. It would be beneficial to the player to be able to interact with all of their characters amongst eachother. I guess the question is how far would they go with it? Probably the one thing is they just wouldnt allow is sharing Gear, Mounts and Minions. Forcing you to play the content if you want things.

And Uncoupling Content from MSQ, I dont see that happening because, as said, its a Fundamental of FFXIV.
Its part of how their world & Game Functions, that it changes and evolves with the changing and progression of the MSQ, which allows some events to even happen. Much less how you get so some areas with said content.

[SannaR]

You are too much in denial and on copium, honestly it's whatever at this point, I have nothing to prove to you, all FFXIV players are the same, no matter if you play on a gameboy color, a nintendo, a playstation 5, a computer, an xbox, everyone behind the screen is a human and everyone does different activities in the game



That doesnt change anything about what activities they do, everyone in FFXIV does different activities, be it raiding,housing,fishing, crafting, hanging out, venues, we are all human behind the screen.

When doing different things was brought up it was about the different games and genres people might like to play or do. It had nothing to do with in game activities. You're the one who somehow read that wrong and has continued to go on this rant about the wrong thing.

[TomsYoungerBro]

There is no reason to have Alts considering how the game Functions.
But honestly, even with that said the game could stand to be more Alt Friendly. It would be beneficial to the player to be able to interact with all of their characters amongst eachother. I guess the question is how far would they go with it? Probably the one thing is they just wouldnt allow is sharing Gear, Mounts and Minions. Forcing you to play the content if you want things.

And Uncoupling Content from MSQ, I dont see that happening because, as said, its a Fundamental of FFXIV.
Its part of how their world & Game Functions, that it changes and evolves with the changing and progression of the MSQ, which allows some events to even happen. Much less how you get so some areas with said content.

Having everything on one character is great...until you get to endgame gearing where it all falls apart and its just better to gear alt jobs on an alt character instead (or do split clears but tomes are still an issue xD)

[Ravenblade1979]

Having everything on one character is great...until you get to endgame gearing where it all falls apart and its just better to gear alt jobs on an alt character instead (or do split clears but tomes are still an issue xD)

uh. other then causality being capped at 450 weekly (as its current tier currency), poetics and astronomy flow into you like a raging river lol. so unless you going for pure lunar stuff and augmenting it. you can literally get the crafted set, trade it in and mass farm astronomy to make that into an augmented set. if you go out of your way for the raid tier stuff though..then thats on you but they removed the caps on those recently as well.

[TomsYoungerBro]

uh. other then causality being capped at 450 weekly (as its current tier currency), poetics and astronomy flow into you like a raging river lol. so unless you going for pure lunar stuff and augmenting it. you can literally get the crafted set, trade it in and mass farm astronomy to make that into an augmented set. if you go out of your way for the raid tier stuff though..then thats on you but they removed the caps on those recently as well.

Yes they removed the cap....8 months after the tier came out xD, and causality is still capped at 450 until 6.4.

And im not sure how "thats on you" is an agrument lmao.

[Ravenblade1979]

Yes they removed the cap....8 months after the tier came out xD, and causality is still capped at 450 until 6.4.

And im not sure how "thats on you" is an agrument lmao.

because if you going for raid tier stuff on multiple classes then its YOUR CHOICE to do it. thats why the "thats on you". end of it all this game is still a mmo and no mmo makes it easy for gear progression. i did learn one thing after my first character. i learned to only have classes i will actually use. that cuts down majorly on what gear i need end of the day and saves me time. however, as most people feel the need to gear up multiple classes then expect it not to be that easy. still need to farm and as a mmo that won't change. only way it would is if this became a true single player experience. those games have simple ways to get gear.

[Stormpeaks]

because if you going for raid tier stuff on multiple classes then its YOUR CHOICE to do it. thats why the "thats on you". end of it all this game is still a mmo and no mmo makes it easy for gear progression. i did learn one thing after my first character. i learned to only have classes i will actually use. that cuts down majorly on what gear i need end of the day and saves me time. however, as most people feel the need to gear up multiple classes then expect it not to be that easy. still need to farm and as a mmo that won't change. only way it would is if this became a true single player experience. those games have simple ways to get gear.

??????

Lmao

The game encourages having everything on one character but you cant get gear for it and your response is "that's on you"

ok bud