I didn't think I'd miss Kaiten that much...

[Zairava]

Dear. Christ.

Button bloat is such an overused term it should be damned and forbidden. There's a difference between having a lot of buttons that fit nicely with each other and having a lot (or too many) buttons that don't.

Samurai is not a case of button bloat, it wasn't before Kaiten's asinine removal, and it isn't now. Everything in the kit fits and works nicely with each other. Before Kaiten got removed I'd argue that EW samurai was at its peak in terms of design. Now it's entire mantre got slaughtered because of some half-assed excuse of "button-bloat" when there were blatantly other methods of reducing the amount of actions on your bar.

It isn't good to remove an entire playstyle and flavor that a dedicated part of the playerbase loved about the job. Especially when it's for...who exactly? The people that didn't even want to learn the job in the first place? This is the exact reason why Kaiten's removal continues to receive such backlash, and is likely the reason why AST and DRG's mini reworks were delayed until the next expansion.

If you want a case of actual button bloat you can look at Paladin. Shield Bash might as well be removed because it is only used in incredibly rare circumstances such as Deep Dungeon. Cover got neutered in Shadowbringers it's honestly a wonder how it still exists too, because it's either broken or F-tier due to it being near impossible to balance. Sheltron and Intervention aren't combined like every other short Tank CD because...reasons?

We keep repeating ourselves on the forums beating a dead horse because we almost never receive any information on what they're going to do with them outside of part 2 of the PLL before major patches and before expansion launches. They asked people for their feedback on Kaiten's removal, and we got...nothing. It is no wonder at all that people on here are frustrated and tired of constantly repeating the same dead points just for it to be either ignored, never brought up, or yet another vague response. It took us 7 Years just to get Living Dead to finally not be a suicide mission. If you don't see an issue with that I don't know what to tell you.