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    GoatOfWar's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Anything that follows the player can also be used by trolls. When Euphrosyne was released, there was an alliance that was formed of many FFXIV content creators that ran it blind together and made a contest out of who died the least, which inversely led to players doing things like trying to catch other players in the AoE tankbusters, or running circle AoEs into one another. They were laughing and having a blast because it was one large premade group, but anyone can do that at any time. If someone wants to troll, there are countless ways they can do it. Removing Rescue will not fix that issue. It is not a problem that you can fix. That is the reality of MMOs.
    But we're not even arguing for an outright removal. We're arguing for counter measures to prevent being trolled. Giving someone the ability to relocate my character at any given point without any nuance is too much. And frankly, as a tank main rescue annoys the living hell out of me. The game needs to give players an option to opt out one way or another. It works perfectly fine in WoW that way too. You're not going to suddenly not need healers because they can't rescue you. It just gives you the control over whether or not you want to be subject to the rather annoying ability. And you have provided no good counter argument against this.
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    Xynnel Valeroyant
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    But we're not even arguing for an outright removal. We're arguing for counter measures to prevent being trolled. Giving someone the ability to relocate my character at any given point without any nuance is too much. And frankly, as a tank main rescue annoys the living hell out of me. The game needs to give players an option to opt out one way or another. It works perfectly fine in WoW that way too. You're not going to suddenly not need healers because they can't rescue you. It just gives you the control over whether or not you want to be subject to the rather annoying ability. And you have provided no good counter argument against this.
    If you add in an opt out you may as well remove Rescue. The point of the skill is to move a player out of harms way whether or not they know they're in it. If there's a toggle in the settings to auto-stop Rescue, then what is the point in keeping the skill when the healer using it has 0 way of detecting if another player opted out other than burning a two minute skill.

    There is no way to opt out and keep the skill so it is either keep or remove.
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    https://www.wowhead.com/item=109599/neural-silencer

    This was in Warcraft for quite a while and it never fizzled Hunter Misdirect, Rogue Tricks of the Trade and Priest Leap of Faith (equivalent to Rescue but better fixes to it). In most cases, I don't turn it on by default. I only do so if it is clear the use of the abilities are done horribly with trolling. Can't remember needing to use it much myself, but I have seen other tanks default to it in dungeons to show that it did happen before. Even if it is trolling, I have a tolerance to it if it is harmless.
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