Expert roulette need to change by 7.0

[Themarvin]

It wasn't always like that though. They dropped it from the 3 latest dungeons to now just 2. Can't recall when the exact change happened but back in storm blood it was 3 dungeons.

first when there is a new expansion there is none.. then you get a new one and you will be able to get 1 in expert roulette... later on when more dungeons get available from patches it will be two... and keep it like that after that... it will take the olders out when there is coming a new one so it is always two.... exceptions can happen if you get two new dungeons same patch.

Either way you get a reward from expert roulette, level 90 roulette, 50/60/70/80 roulette, leveling roulette, msq roulette, alliance roulette, raid roulette, mentor roulette, trials roulette.

I don't see the issue? it has always been like this with some very few exceptions, I don't see the complaint or reason to complain about something that is not really a problem at all.

If you want to fix anything, fix alliance roulette, where people cheat/exploit their way to getting only crystal tower ones in them, which is sad annoying and makes the game boring as hell... with adding a ilevel cap per 10 levels you get, so you need to be equipped for the level you are to enter the roulette so in that way will have the entire choice of 24 man raids instead of just friggen boring crystal tower.

[Toutatis]

so what you say is you hate to play the game so much you don't want more things just go in and out as fast as humanly possible?

I think that you have serious reading comprehension problems. I said I don’t mind two roulettes as they each give a lot of tomes which are useful for the relic and crafting. Where did I say I don’t want more things? I can do two dungeons and have a guarantee they won’t be the same with two separate roulettes. To me that’s more things.

The queue is fast and the dungeons have a reasonable duration (vs something like the 3rd Nier raid). Is that a bad thing? Where did I talk about speed running? It allows me to do both roulettes, get a decent amount of tomes, and it usually leaves time to do more activities. How is that hating the game?

Expert also drops gear that has a sufficient iLvl for Abyssos, Aglaia and Euprhosyne and separating the last two dungeons from the rest guarantees drop with a minimum iLvl. It can be useful to try jobs played less often when there’s not enough tomes to buy gear.

[CelestiCer]

Jobs just got Simplified/Homogenized/Streamlined/Skills Deleted/Made Easier/Reworked/Dumber and Dumber and Dum- well then it doesn't matter if you give me 1 / 2 / 3 or 10 Expert roulettes. It's all Shallow, no Depth.

I used to spam Fates, Experts and Bozja all day cause my Job was more Fun. Not cause the content was so amazingly designed. Ultimate takes to long to get into for the enjoyment that isn't worth it. Plus Yoshi saying " Just Go play Ultimate " is a cop out. I rather have my fun be around every corner and not purely at when I play the hardest bits of content, which is what it used to be. Of course with Square? Fun was detected, we can only have " Diet Fun ", yum.

• Keep Jobs Fun/Engaging? and all content is more likely to be Fun
• Make Jobs Flavorless/Boring? then the content better carry the Fun

And sadly? most content is just a cakewalk, bland, zero excitement, effortless, braindead. It's content you can do while watching Netflix and eating Chips, it's Boring. Made our Jobs boring on-top of that? yeah...

[Gemina]

Just rename it. It isn't "expert" level anyway. That should remove the expectation some have.

What gives you the impression that 'expert' means more difficult? The game has had four expansions now, so when has expert ever brought with them an increased difficulty level?

What you have is a false expectation and taking a word out of context in order to facilitate that mental process. If dungeons were labeled 'extreme' or 'savage' then you would have a basis for your arguments.

[Kuroka]

Expert in that context is more like, experienced, which one should be at cap level...

[magitekLuna]

first when there is a new expansion there is none.. then you get a new one and you will be able to get 1 in expert roulette... later on when more dungeons get available from patches it will be two... and keep it like that after that... it will take the olders out when there is coming a new one so it is always two.... exceptions can happen if you get two new dungeons same patch.

Either way you get a reward from expert roulette, level 90 roulette, 50/60/70/80 roulette, leveling roulette, msq roulette, alliance roulette, raid roulette, mentor roulette, trials roulette.

I don't see the issue? it has always been like this with some very few exceptions, I don't see the complaint or reason to complain about something that is not really a problem at all.

If you want to fix anything, fix alliance roulette, where people cheat/exploit their way to getting only crystal tower ones in them, which is sad annoying and makes the game boring as hell... with adding a ilevel cap per 10 levels you get, so you need to be equipped for the level you are to enter the roulette so in that way will have the entire choice of 24 man raids instead of just friggen boring crystal tower.

first when there is a new expansion there is 3

[magitekLuna]

What gives you the impression that 'expert' means more difficult? The game has had four expansions now, so when has expert ever brought with them an increased difficulty level?

What you have is a false expectation and taking a word out of context in order to facilitate that mental process. If dungeons were labeled 'extreme' or 'savage' then you would have a basis for your arguments.

in the 2.x days up to 2.5 i think

[Thurmnmurmn]

first when there is a new expansion there is none.. then you get a new one and you will be able to get 1 in expert roulette... later on when more dungeons get available from patches it will be two... and keep it like that after that... it will take the olders out when there is coming a new one so it is always two.... exceptions can happen if you get two new dungeons same patch.

Either way you get a reward from expert roulette, level 90 roulette, 50/60/70/80 roulette, leveling roulette, msq roulette, alliance roulette, raid roulette, mentor roulette, trials roulette.

I don't see the issue? it has always been like this with some very few exceptions, I don't see the complaint or reason to complain about something that is not really a problem at all.

If you want to fix anything, fix alliance roulette, where people cheat/exploit their way to getting only crystal tower ones in them, which is sad annoying and makes the game boring as hell... with adding a ilevel cap per 10 levels you get, so you need to be equipped for the level you are to enter the roulette so in that way will have the entire choice of 24 man raids instead of just friggen boring crystal tower.

So all those roulettes do nothing for those who want to play their jobs with their full kit (aka lvl90).
And as I pointed out, it wasn't always like this. We had 3 dungeons before. Yes it's only 1 more dungeon but that's still a 50% increase. With the fact we only get 1 new dungeon per patch for some time now, it does get super stale real fast.

I think the addition of more max LVL dungeons in the roulette or max LVL trials would be a nice addition as others suggested.

[Ransu]

What gives you the impression that 'expert' means more difficult? The game has had four expansions now, so when has expert ever brought with them an increased difficulty level?

What you have is a false expectation and taking a word out of context in order to facilitate that mental process. If dungeons were labeled 'extreme' or 'savage' then you would have a basis for your arguments.

Well, at one point in time we got hard mode dungeons and they were tied to the roulette. The name was just never really changed.

[Gemina]

in the 2.x days up to 2.5 i think

Well, at one point in time we got hard mode dungeons and they were tied to the roulette. The name was just never really changed.

There was never anything hard about the HM dungeons in comparison to capped dungeons without the HM tag. Technically, it was abandoned completely once the decision was made to stop reusing the names of previously named instances. Hence, the reason for it to be dropped entirely.