What lore do you ignore?

[Mansion]

Because I really didn't vibe with Endwalker, I don't feel so involved in the lore anymore so anything goes. But I do kind of interpret the whole Elpis episode otherwise, rather than a "time travelling adventure", I sort of imagine it is Elidibus showing us what happened, and we had no actual involvement there. Like we had a VR headset and that's it.

[RyuDragnier]

Because I really didn't vibe with Endwalker, I don't feel so involved in the lore anymore so anything goes. But I do kind of interpret the whole Elpis episode otherwise, rather than a "time travelling adventure", I sort of imagine it is Elidibus showing us what happened, and we had no actual involvement there. Like we had a VR headset and that's it.

I imagine that if they had done 2 expansions like originally plan, the entire Elpis episode would have been instead an entire expansion of multiple Ancient zones where we did not play as ourselves, but were instead controlling Azem (who would look like us on our end).

[Wyssahtyn]

Y is pronounced ee in Japanese.

...lolwut.

[RyuDragnier]

...lolwut.

You know how the Ys franchise is pronounced, yes?

[Cleretic]

You know how the Ys franchise is pronounced, yes?

Wrong, and bad choice of evidence anyway: Ys is written イース, which is roughtly 'isu' with that long 'ee' sound.

The Japanese Y sound is one of those consonants that only exists with trailing vowel sounds, but is usually with that sharp, shorter 'Y' sound; 'Ya', 'Ye', 'Yo', and so on. Y'shtola and Y'mhitra's names specifically starts with the 'Ya' character, but their names are in katakana so it's treated as a loan word.

[RyuDragnier]

Wrong, and bad choice of evidence anyway: Ys is written イース, which is roughtly 'isu' with that long 'ee' sound.

The Japanese Y sound is one of those consonants that only exists with trailing vowel sounds, but is usually with that sharp, shorter 'Y' sound; 'Ya', 'Ye', 'Yo', and so on. Y'shtola and Y'mhitra's names specifically starts with the 'Ya' character, but their names are in katakana so it's treated as a loan word.

I stand corrected then.

[Allegor]

I ignore the fact RPR feeds their avatar people's souls and just pretend they feed off my own aether instead, much like how Y'shtola and Vrtra compensate Zero for her assistance. I know, I know, Drusilla outright said something like "if you value the morality of your soul, piss off" right from the get go before we even accept the job crystal, but hey, a scythe is a cool weapon mkay?

[RyuDragnier]

I ignore the fact RPR feeds their avatar people's souls and just pretend they feed off my own aether instead, much like how Y'shtola and Vrtra compensate Zero for her assistance. I know, I know, Drusilla outright said something like "if you value the morality of your soul, piss off" right from the get go before we even accept the job crystal, but hey, a scythe is a cool weapon mkay?

I agree with this, it's just more efficient for both the Reaper and the Avatar. I'd like to believe the Reaper has a larger than average appetite for this reason.

[Larirawiel]

I ignore the EW lore completely. There are simply too many retcons, time travel paradoxons and a constant goofiness of the protagonists/antagonists to waste the time with the EW lore. It seems to me, that EW is a pure FF fanservice expansion.

Cheers

[Lheilara]

I’m late to the thread but I so badly wanna comment anyway! The way I see the lore is as a pile of mouldable building blocks and a pre-built scaffold… but how we want to construct the building itself is largely up to us as individual players. The number of questions the devs have been asked that have extremely vague responses or straight up ‘we don’t know for sure, what do you think?’ kinda answers, really says to me that this is OUR story - us, the players. I don’t think plot holes or lore conflicts in this particular game are down to failure or lack of care from the writers… I think they’re results of they themselves having fun with the story they’re writing for us.
There’s things we see and things we don’t see. Things we are educated on and things we are not. The answer to almost everything is just ‘well, maybe?’ Like, if FF14 isn’t a clear depiction of Yin and Yang then I don’t know what is. We literally exist in a grey are, always in flux.

As long as a player isn’t toxic about their personal take on the story, it really really doesn’t matter what ‘lore’ we ignore - a huge lot of it is only implied, and even then, I believe it is similar to real world history insomuch as ‘facts’ are only facts until proven otherwise. For example, the lore books give us a teeny bit of insight on the clans for each race, but the language used implies that most of these races do indeed have other clans or variants etc. that just aren’t as prominent or known about in Eorzea itself. Therefore we can say that the lore here is vague and open to our own interpretation, whims and fancies. Ditto with the world around us, the history, the intentions and wills of characters, the relationships between our WoL and the other characters that we do and do not see… just because we are told something, does not mean that it is true.

Now my little rant is over, I don’t really ignore any of the lore. I just twist it, add to it, assume things about it etc. in a way that befits MY interpretation of the story.
The only thing I’d say that I struggle to adopt is the idea that it’s all just been one year - however I think this is simply the result of the story taking place in an MMO time bubble… not to mention the real life phenomenon of time sometimes feeling quicker or slower than it really is. Maybe for the WoL, who’s had crazy things going on back to back since the first primal was slain, maybe it feels like it’s only been a year. But personally, I like to think there’s around 4 or 5 years between ARR and EW.