Healer Survey:

[ForsakenRoe]

The part about that which I think is troublesome is we have raidwide paralysis cases (though extremely rare), and it's not exactly a fun experience just casting Esuna 8 times. Perhaps if we expand upon debuff cleansing as a form of utilty though, that could be better. But the issue is if it's that dreadful, then it becomes a mandetory Esuna rather than a choice or a decision that needs to be made. The worse it is, the sooner you want to remove it as well, so it can feel quite binary in that regard. The best cases are situations where you need to decide how to approach a problem, such as Rescuing a heavied ally rather than Esunaing the heavy off them.

Or perhaps you include things like Warden's Paean that prevent debuffs, so timing an effect like that before you see a debuff coming could also play into more interesting decision making.

Could have Esuna upgrade at some point to uhh, is it called Astra? The one that works like Warden's, where it blocks the next debuff that should apply. Then yeh, you could coat the raid in them and ignore Throttle as a mechanic I guess, but you're still spending GCDs to do so. And since Throttle only hits 6/8, you're spending 2 GCDs on people that won't even get debuffs, which is a damage loss and that is criminal behavior (apparently). Alternatively, make the upgrade to Astra be WHM specific so it has that as an advantage over AST, and watch as nobody gives a damn because it's not something that increases rDPS

[ty_taurus]

Could have Esuna upgrade at some point to uhh, is it called Astra? The one that works like Warden's, where it blocks the next debuff that should apply. Then yeh, you could coat the raid in them and ignore Throttle as a mechanic I guess, but you're still spending GCDs to do so. And since Throttle only hits 6/8, you're spending 2 GCDs on people that won't even get debuffs, which is a damage loss and that is criminal behavior (apparently). Alternatively, make the upgrade to Astra be WHM specific so it has that as an advantage over AST, and watch as nobody gives a damn because it's not something that increases rDPS

No, I don't think just having it be an upgrade changes anything. I'm talking more like Warden's where it's OGCD, or it has to come with some sort of resource element to it, for example, a lily spell that prevents a debuff and nourishes the blood lily, an option that Selene provides but Eos doesn't, a card effect on AST, and an alternative DPS spell that prevents debuffs on your Kardia target at a higher MP cost for SGE, or something to those effects. But those are also examples that really require you dive head-first into debuff mechanics in order to justify the additional hotbar space.

Even if healers only have Esuna, if we do have more instances of debuffs being important, it does also open the door for non-healer jobs to have another avenue of utility to set them apart from their alternatives rather than everything being about flat damage.