The current state of the "MMORPG" FFXIV is unsustainable. Here's why

[Themarvin]

This is a shit take. "Just leave" Game not changing the way you like it? "Just leave". The devs are being lazy with the .x patches? "Just leave". How many times are we gonna use this argument until you're the only one left?

To your credit though that it was I do when a product I've used for a long time starts to drop in their quality, I don't pay for mediocre shit. But then again mediocre shit seems to be the norm for SE these days.

If you don't like it and want it to be like WoW or whatever else game... then yes you should quit this one and play the ones tha cater to you.

MMO's don't get content very often and it takes long time to get content... there is alot of content in FFXIV to do... and if you are all fixated ONLY on the latest content... the level 90 content.. then yes then you constantly will run into a wall, it is as ridiculous logic and simple as that... there is no way that ANY company can keep up with pounding out content without the players catching up as it is.

Take a break, play another game for a while, it can't be said anymore clear... catch up with other content you missed out on in the game as it is or something, just saying not getting enough content is irrelevant and also... people do not want to pay 45 dollars per month for a subscription for then having 2-3x the amount of extra people working on the game to spit out content that people would catch up on anyway way faster than they are able to produce the content still.... the QA alone is a hell, and bug finding/fixing before release is also not that easy.

[R041]

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Double cringe.

Going back to Diablo 4. Peace. lol

[DPZ2]

Double cringe.

Going back to Diablo 4. Peace. lol

You, sir, are a coward and a cad.

[TomsYoungerBro]

I can queue up LFR in WoW at 2am and find 20 other people, and thats content people really much do once a week for gear.

All i hear is excuses for dead content

Its because people in this game have been conditioned to login and not actually play the game, which is why its always been this way (even though we have more players than ever???). Its probably the biggest reason we have duty support in MSQ now.

[KhudusQestir]

There's nothing to respect about this. It's not a sound business decision because obviously larger populations bring more money and it also doesn't respect the players who are fans and pay for the content year round. What it does succeed in though, is creating a temporary stream of new players that will treat it as a disposable game and do a one and done run. Hardly long term potential here.

The game will age, you know who might stay with it? loyal fans if they feel like the devs really care about them.

I'm sorry but I believe you misunderstood me. What I respect is a business want to stickto a theme like focus of story telling. It's like art, you want the artist to stick to what they enjoy so their passion is there to help keep a game truly great. What I don't like and agree with you on is ignoring what other players want or feel and so far I haven't got that vibe from SE. Sometimes, yes. . . but more depends on who's making that decision. Whether it's Yoshi or whatever his name was that wanted SE to push for NFT.

[Noox-115]

Agree at 100%

[EgilTheStressedMage]

Huh.. Sounds exactly like XIV Shadowbringers 2.0 lol

What does this even mean?

[Raven2014]

The people complaining weren't the ways actually clearing Coil but rather non-raiders with the perception a tier dying in only a few days meant it must be super easy. That mentality was derived entirely from WoW, which was at the height of its popularity back then with their Savage equivalent taking several weeks.

Durign 2.0 and up until the beginning of 3.0 one could easily see FF14 was trying to copy WoW, Yoshi himself had implied just as much. I felt 3.0 is when they want to make that hard push to the space occupied by WoW (and by that I don't mean simply in raid content), and they got a massive back slash for it. Had they stayed on course, not only FF14 wouldn't replace WoW, it would just go the same way as 1.0. A lot of people said SB changed, but it wasn't, they already started around the middle of HW. I think - in retrospective, SB is a place where FF14 decided instead of trying to copy WoW, it gonna carve out its own vision instead. There is a reason why WoW players still want to refer to the 2.0 and early 3.0 period, because IMO that was the only time FF14 was trying to be the next WoW.

[caffe_macchiato]

Take a break, play another game for a while, it can't be said anymore clear...

This is the anti-capitalist message we all need to hear in 2023. Too many companies are trying to compete with our time these days. Blizzard, Smilegate, EA, Riot, etc. all want us to play their games all the time. Square Enix has the opposite view: we shouldn't play their game any more than necessary. Yoshida would agree that gaming is a vice that gets in the way of raising families and having real fun, not fake fun like MMOs offer. A video game can be enjoyed for an hour or two each week, but anything beyond that is unnatural and is a key part of why the modern world is disintegrating. We all need to learn to unplug and, most importantly, disconnect from the almighty dollar. Yoshida and CBU3 are among the most forward-thinking people in gaming for recognizing that people need to be decoupled from mass-market consumerism for our own sake.

Hopefully, when Yoshida retires, he can be a bit more vocal about his views and hopefully spark a sea change in the entertainment industry. For our own health, and for the planet, it's time to stop excessive consumption.

"Too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by [how long our MMOs last for]. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming things [and subscribing to Final Fantasy XIV] does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We've learned that piling up material goods [and relics] cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose."

people do not want to pay 45 dollars per month for a subscription for then having 2-3x the amount of extra people working on the game to spit out content that people would catch up on anyway way faster than they are able to produce the content still.... the QA alone is a hell, and bug finding/fixing before release is also not that easy.

Not to mention the price that labor has to pay as well. Imagine the pressure for all those workers to make this additional content. Are they even unionized? Do they get paid a living wage? How much of FFXIV would have to be outsourced if we get more content? Do people really want their game turning into a sweatshop? Since most of us support CBU3 and Yoshida's healthy living initiatives, we can all agree that we need to prioritize ethics over content. If there's any chance that our subscriptions can be used for labor exploitation like Blizzard, we should put our foot down and say no.

[Ath192]

This is the anti-capitalist message we all need to hear in 2023. Too many companies are trying to compete with our time these days. Blizzard, Smilegate, EA, Riot, etc. all want us to play their games all the time. Square Enix has the opposite view: we shouldn't play their game any more than necessary. Yoshida would agree that gaming is a vice that gets in the way of raising families and having real fun, not fake fun like MMOs offer. A video game can be enjoyed for an hour or two each week, but anything beyond that is unnatural and is a key part of why the modern world is disintegrating. We all need to learn to unplug and, most importantly, disconnect from the almighty dollar. Yoshida and CBU3 are among the most forward-thinking people in gaming for recognizing that people need to be decoupled from mass-market consumerism for our own sake.

Hopefully, when Yoshida retires, he can be a bit more vocal about his views and hopefully spark a sea change in the entertainment industry. For our own health, and for the planet, it's time to stop excessive consumption.

"Too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption. Human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by [how long our MMOs last for]. But we've discovered that owning things and consuming things [and subscribing to Final Fantasy XIV] does not satisfy our longing for meaning. We've learned that piling up material goods [and relics] cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose."



Not to mention the price that labor has to pay as well. Imagine the pressure for all those workers to make this additional content. Are they even unionized? Do they get paid a living wage? How much of FFXIV would have to be outsourced if we get more content? Do people really want their game turning into a sweatshop? Since most of us support CBU3 and Yoshida's healthy living initiatives, we can all agree that we need to prioritize ethics over content. If there's any chance that our subscriptions can be used for labor exploitation like Blizzard, we should put our foot down and say no.

So this is how people attach meaning to receiving nothing for their money. Interesting...

I wonder if there is a better subscription service we could all buy but instead the product is an email that says:

We have given you the chance to unplug. For our own health, and for the planet, it's time to stop excessive consumption. Piling up material goods [and relics] cannot fill the emptiness of lives which have no confidence or purpose.

Only 12.99 dollars a month folks!