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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    ARR THAVNAIRIAN MISTS. The exact same way, the exact same method, also uncapped tomestones.
    IIRC they weren't uncapped at that time. But it's a very similar step.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    IIRC they weren't uncapped at that time. But it's a very similar step.
    It's why I'm not really understanding the complaints, with the same people also pointing at the ARR relic steps as good design. This is literally the exact same 2nd step as ARR's relic.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    It's why I'm not really understanding the complaints, with the same people also pointing at the ARR relic steps as good design. This is literally the exact same 2nd step as ARR's relic.
    The second step of the ARR relic was released in 2.0, not a later patch. We've waited 15 months for this seconds step. It's disingenuous to compare this to the second step to ARR when in reality the length of the relic quest has halved and we have to wait half an expansion to even start it.

    By patch 2.38 (compared to 6.35 we are in now) there were the base weapon step, Zenith, Atma, Animus, Novus and Nexus. 6 steps that were all different. Both the Zodiac relic and the Hildebrand relic have only two more updates after patch X.4, which means that half of this relic is just collecting 3000 tomes and that's it. What a disgrace.
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    I don't mind grinding tomes for a relic. It does feel pretty lame that step 2 is identical to step 1.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    The second step of the ARR relic was released in 2.0, not a later patch. We've waited 15 months for this seconds step. It's disingenuous to compare this to the second step to ARR when in reality the length of the relic quest has halved and we have to wait half an expansion to even start it.

    By patch 2.38 (compared to 6.35 we are in now) there were the base weapon step, Zenith, Atma, Animus, Novus and Nexus. 6 steps that were all different. Both the Zodiac relic and the Hildebrand relic have only two more updates after patch X.4, which means that half of this relic is just collecting 3000 tomes and that's it. What a disgrace.
    This as well. The relic gets delayed more and more each expansion, and having steps this small this late feel bad as well.

    I'm also the type of person who only makes 1 or 2 relics so these smaller steps don't keep me busy for long.
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