Change/Remove Lalafell "Lifter"...

[LostUser]

it's been nothing but people complaining about the complaint itself and not mentioning at all whether the item should remain or not. But hey, that would require you seeing things in a fair light and clearly, that's not your goal here.

There have been plenty of responses saying things like "I like it as it is. It doesn't need changing."

You may want to go back through and read them, instead of looking at this from a heavily biased perspective, since it apparently blinded you from seeing them the first time around.

As for my "goal" - stop talking nonsense; I've already said that anybody harassing or being abusive should be reported, blocked, and preferably banned... but that doesn't suit the agenda that you're trying to pin on me, does it?

I didn't think that, you've said it, in fact, you're saying it again. You're doubling down by calling it "toddler-like". Lalafell are short and cute, like a chibi, if you are conflating that with toddlers, that is, once again, a you issue.

You did think that.

Try again. I didn't conflate anything. I never said height was the same as age, and the fact that you've quite confidently repeatedly mistaken that point tells me all that I need to know about you and how your perspective doesn't shift despite being shown evidence contradicting your perspective.

Looks like it's you who's conflating words here, don't you think?

We're already seeing it here. The demeaning comments, people telling others they should fantasia to "correct the mistake"

Oh the horror.. how could they possibly tell someone that they made a mistake? Jesus Christ. You realise that was nothing more than someone poking a little joke because of this drama, right?

Again, if you don't like it, report it and I will support you in doing so. There's an entire function there for it...

...Which is why I don't think it should be removed, but its name and description tweaked. I said this at least three times, twice directly at you.

The question still remains... is this item actually being used to cause distress to players or do you just assume it will? Please, show the evidence that this chair is an issue, and that it's not just a handful of players making flawed jokes due to the drama of OP's post.

I don't see any misuse of the chair, so you're going to have to show it to me if you want to justify the name being changed. "I believe it will make some people say mean things" it's really a valid reason by itself, is it?

[LostUser]

I was disappointed that they called this item the Lalafell Lifter when it's far too big for my butt (it's not lallafell furniture like how clothing items use the designation)! It doesn't accurately represent what the item is; this is just a chair and it's not sized for us. There's nothing "Lalafellian" about it, except for maybe the pink which fits in very few builds. On the other hand, the Lalafellian Stool visually fits the size of lalas and fits with the scenery in the game. If the point of this is to put us on a higher seating level like a booster seat (which I would appreciate for photos and the like) then dyes into wood tones to match other chairs would be great. The chair's in a cute chic style that I could see certain lalas using, but the white clashes with most houses, which limits its utility to rooms of its colour palette. I think the name/description would be fine to stay if the chair's utility was increased because it would accurately describe its purpose... but I don't see how you could put this into a build where it didn't match without it looking like, well, a high chair. While I'm not invested in this being offensive, I wish it was actually useful instead of a gag!

That's exactly what the issue is -- make it dyeable and it solves the problem. People can make it less child-like by changing the way it looks. It could do with being slightly taller, too, tbf.

[Fourbestintoner]

I am playing the joke baby race and now I'm mad how could this happen to me!?
You know in other languages it says the chair can also be used for babies of other races, it's such a shame english took that out, always so joyless.

[Vulture]

As a member of the femroe masterrace I must insist the chair remain. More visibility is key. Do you have any idea how much it costs to clean mashed potatoes off my boots every bloody day?

[ZoeEudestand]

It's just a chair...
Lala's getting catered to and still find a way to twist it and be miserable. It doesn't look anything like a toddler chair you psycho's and you will still be memed whether it was in the game or not, every race gets memed be it by the devs or by the playerbase.

Now give me a rock to lay on and a sun lamp to warm it up with. Bowl of eggs to snack on too and whatever else. I'd be happy to get anything race related...

..Cant believe people complain about lack of content this patch when this thread is still going.

[kevin_satron]

Also, this is "Website/Companion App Feedback & Suggestion" section, so post something that are related to the website.
Repost this in Gameplay > Housing section

[Pyshiro]

Also, this is "Website/Companion App Feedback & Suggestion" section, so post something that are related to the website.
Repost this in Gameplay > Housing section

Yeah unfortunately I realized only afterward posting that this sort of thread was meant for Feedback > Localization when I noticed the sticky'd post and so I mentioned it on the first page. Would have deleted it and moved it but it is what it is.

[JustTheDawg]

I really don't get why Lalafell players are so upset about this? skimming through I saw two main things people are complaining about, so:

1) It's a joke at how short and child-like the Lalafellin race is. that's it. why is this a hot topic? miqo'te got a scratching post furniture item, how is this chair any different? it's a joke furniture item.

2) I get if it's frustrating to not be able to RP with most folk because you chose the short race with child-like attributes and animations, and to that I do agree it's dumb to be left out of regular RP... However, Lalafellins are designed to be very child-like and saying they aren't is just.. wrong? so many players gatekeep 18+ RP centers from Lalafellins for good reason, everything from the slow walk of the race to the race-specific emotes are designed and animated to be very goofy and child-like. Emotes specifically designed with Lalas in mind, eg. /deride, are child-like. I really don't get why this is a hot button topic and why so many lala players are seemingly angry about this? Everything from the race to, hell, the starter race clothes of the Lalafells are designed to be child-like.

[ElysiumDragon]

I really don't get why Lalafell players are so upset about this? skimming through I saw two main things people are complaining about, so:

1) It's a joke at how short and child-like the Lalafellin race is. that's it. why is this a hot topic? miqo'te got a scratching post furniture item, how is this chair any different? it's a joke furniture item.

2) I get if it's frustrating to not be able to RP with most folk because you chose the short race with child-like attributes and animations, and to that I do agree it's dumb to be left out of regular RP... However, Lalafellins are designed to be very child-like and saying they aren't is just.. wrong? so many players gatekeep 18+ RP centers from Lalafellins for good reason, everything from the slow walk of the race to the race-specific emotes are designed and animated to be very goofy and child-like. Emotes specifically designed with Lalas in mind, eg. /deride, are child-like. I really don't get why this is a hot button topic and why so many lala players are seemingly angry about this? Everything from the race to, hell, the starter race clothes of the Lalafells are designed to be child-like.

It's because Lalafell players tend to get harassed because of the above. In some cases, they're not even allowed to roleplay in their own venues (a completely reasonable thing to do) without someone trying to start a harassment campaign against them. It's believed that the infantilising effectively 'promotes' the harassment of Lalafell in-game.

[NamiRocket]

While the gag part is the biggest grievance, the colors really don't help whatsoever to implement into my house. My entire house is so warmly colored (You can tell a little by my screenshot) in neutral foresty wood that it super sticks out like a sore thumb.

Why do you think everything has to be tailor-fit to only your needs? I've seen countless other people, lalafell or not, already say it fits their aesthetic perfectly. Not every item is going to be for every person.

This goes right back to the original crux of this entire thing... if you don't like it, then just don't use it.