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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Can still play the game. Playing is required to gather the tomes needed.

    I suspect the people who want the excruciating grind only do a handful of relics, if more than 1, and go back to bees kneesing in Limsa. Because people do pay their sub to do just that.

    I do not want an excruciating grind to be able to obtain every relic. I should be able to get home from work and not feel this game has become a second job, I should feel like I can do other things, play other games, or log into my potato alt.

    Farm X number of (insert old content here), or grind X fates in an old expansion are not more content or more diverse than collect set number of tomes.
    casual mindset.

    this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    casual mindset.

    this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.
    A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.
    Yes and one that requires an alternative level of effort; not substituting progging a full tier for one day of roulettes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    A goal of relics is to have a casual alternative to savage weapons.
    casual player don't care about weapon stats, they just want glowing weapons without any effort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    casual player don't care about weapon stats, they just want glowing weapons without any effort.
    Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.
    It has the added benefit of being a future investment, too. A patch or so down the line, it becomes upgradeable for free (and by free I mean via tomestones). I never used to bother, but when I learned about that, it became a must for my alt jobs.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.

    they still don't, they buy crafted gear just for glamour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    Tons of casual players buy crafted gear when it launches. They do care about ilvl.
    because they are locked out of roulettes and alliance raids, if there was no ilvl lock, youd see people with the free lv89 gear in the newest raids

    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    Didn't you use tomestones for the first ARR relics to buy items to upgrade them on the first stages.
    after materia melding a base weapon to even begin the relic process, then going out on slaying some monster with your "incomplete" relic

    the tomestone mats was the second step. This time you just buy your relic
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lak14 View Post
    casual mindset.

    this game is slowly being ruined by the casual community.
    Xiv was never a hardcore game. This ain't XI and never has been. The game being causal is a big part of why it's been successful and will continue to be. MMOs like WoW n BDO take care of the hardcore n I like that balance
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