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  1. #211
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    PaalHenrik's Avatar
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    Sophisticated Beggar
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    Sagittarius
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobaltH View Post
    I hate to break it to you, but I could not care less about if an online video game character represents myself as a person. What I do take issue with is being called a "ped" and "child groomer" as well as being actively shunned out of groups for simply choosing to play a gnome in a video game. Square Enix takes a no tolerance stance on this kind of online harassment, and I report it when I can, but this just gives more voice to the terminally online crowd, and that is what I take issue with.
    The ones taking issue with it first are the ones identifying as a short pixel person. Go figure.
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  2. #212
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    Ashen Storm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midare View Post
    Here's a suggestion:

    If you see a short person walking into a venue and getting hammered before they start dancing, and think that's "uncomfy", then that's a you issue, not the issue of the short person. I don't dress my character as a child and I don't have my character behave as a child, because she's not a child and if you or people like you can't understand this, this is still a you issue and not a me issue or the issue of any other lalafell player.
    And you know what you do with a you issue? You handle it yourself instead of putting others through a bad time because you can't handle it... you know, like an adult should.
    Here's a suggestion:

    Apply your made-up scenario to this actual chair scenario and utilise the same logic for a resolution.

    If you see an item that you don't like but plenty of other people have no problem with it, that's a you problem, regardless of whether some other people agree with you or not; you aren't being forced to use the item, and you aren't being forced to like the item.

    So... what do we do when something is a you problem? We get over it like well-adjusted adults do.

    We're going to get people with differing opinions and, frankly, yours is no more valuable than that of anybody else.

    Instead of calling for the item to be changed to suit your tastes when other people have already said that they like this, you should be calling for another item to be made that is more to your tastes. You effectively said it yourself; why should others be restricted because of a you problem?

    Get over it... you know, like an adult should.
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  3. #213
    Player Pratini's Avatar
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    Henry Seger
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    Complains about the "lala are babies" stereotype while crying like a baby about pixels in a videogame.

    Go figure.
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  4. #214
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    This thread is so stupid it convinced me to finally register for the forums just to contribute nothing but to point and laugh.

    I say, full heartedly and as well-meaning as I might, touch grass.
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  5. #215
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    CobaltH's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaalHenrik View Post
    The ones taking issue with it first are the ones identifying as a short pixel person. Go figure.
    Are you going to actually respond to the actual issue I listed, which is harassment? Or is it just dunking on the thread for funny internet points and replies that you're after?
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  6. #216
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    Midare Dare
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    Quote Originally Posted by LostUser View Post
    Here's a suggestion:

    Apply your made-up scenario to this actual chair scenario and utilise the same logic for a resolution.

    If you see an item that you don't like but plenty of other people have no problem with it, that's a you problem, regardless of whether some other people agree with you or not; you aren't being forced to use the item, and you aren't being forced to like the item.
    Oh don't you worry, I don't plan on using it and will pretend it doesn't exist for all I care.

    But if I see someone using this exact same item as further leverage for more arguments about how "Lalas are just children", then interestingly, that's no longer a me issue, it's an issue that SE is perpetuating by giving ammunition to people who indeed make their own view other people's problems.

    And I hope that since you seem to agree that people should handle their personal issues themselves, you will also call those doing that out (because they will emerge).

    Or, you know, it would be very hypocritical otherwise.

    P.S.: Oh also, while we're at it, how about you start by calling out those complaining about a complaint or those calling others "childish" while using childish retorts. I mean, it's only fair.
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    Last edited by Midare; 03-09-2023 at 12:47 AM.

  7. #217
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    AzanathEU's Avatar
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    Kaileesha Kazarishi
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    You are too late. All the big RPG companies spring in the woke/racism train. They even changed orcs because the Generation that is soon to inherit the earth believes them to be a stand in for black people...
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  8. #218
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobaltH View Post
    Are you going to actually respond to the actual issue I listed, which is harassment? Or is it just dunking on the thread for funny internet points and replies that you're after?
    There are two features to deal with harassment already; block and report.

    It's a separate issue entirely; This chair is not going to cause harassment. It's also a housing item -- don't go to the houses of people who harass you and bully you and you'll never be forced to interact with or be around said housing item. You are free to leave the house/vicinity of people who you don't want to be around, after all. Just don't forget to block and report upon leaving.
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  9. #219
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    OziAuros's Avatar
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    Ava Zariah
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    Quote Originally Posted by CobaltH View Post
    The fact you cannot make the mental connection that a race shaped like a triangle looks nothing like children speaks more to you as a person, to be frank. The "joke" that you would prefer I take simply perpetuates the stereotype of the playerbase that you are wanting to push in your two points. I would love to hear how we are supposed to hold a discussion over something like this that you wouldn't label as childish, considering the thread has been quite civil. Or is this a "You are acting childish because you choose to speak at all." sort of thing?
    Have you ever seen a pudgy toddler?
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  10. #220
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    Caitlinzulu's Avatar
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Percysgotagun View Post
    This is an issue of an in game item that the devs created only further fueling discrimination against a portion of the player base for an aesthetic decision. How would you feel for instance if the devs added an item called a "Miqo'te Litterbox" for indoor housing?
    Oooh yes please give it to me. please plese SE
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