FFXVI only PS5?

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Some people's takes on how PC compares to consoles at this point isn't really based on what the hardware is like for the price point, but sentimentality.

What's in the PS5 runs in circles around PCs unless you're spending in the range of 1500-2000+ on hardware, and that shuts out an absolute ton of people from having a comparable experience on PC.

My 3090ti speaks differently XD

[MirielleLavandre]

Yet the 3090ti costs 4 times the PS5 for the card alone (at least on Newegg) - which is what many on here are saying -- the price and performance gap between a 'good enough' PC that equals the PS5 or Series X will almost always be 2 or 3 times the cost of those consoles, unless someone can show somewhere a PC system that matches the consoles for $500.

I have all 3 so don't really have any issues, but I think no one should disparage any particular way to play as being terrible or trash, as some have done. I mean, I love PC and consoles equally and, to be honest with recent PC ports, no matter the power of the PC, if the port is terrible, console may just be the 'best' way to play, at least until PC port optimization or patches.

[Amenara]

Yet the 3090ti costs 4 times the PS5 for the card alone (at least on Newegg) - which is what many on here are saying -- the price and performance gap between a 'good enough' PC that equals the PS5 or Series X will almost always be 2 or 3 times the cost of those consoles, unless someone can show somewhere a PC system that matches the consoles for $500.

I have all 3 so don't really have any issues, but I think no one should disparage any particular way to play as being terrible or trash, as some have done. I mean, I love PC and consoles equally and, to be honest with recent PC ports, no matter the power of the PC, if the port is terrible, console may just be the 'best' way to play, at least until PC port optimization or patches.

I agree, Square Enix has been pretty bad with some of their PC ports recently and that is why I worry about FF16 not being a PC launch title as we may end up with a subpar port that is poorly optimized and takes 3rd party mods and tools to make the experience good. As for building a PC, 100% agree, you won't be able to build a comparable PC for $500, but at the same time you have access to a wider variety of games and features you may not be able to have with just a console. That being said, you can still build a pretty decent rig for ~$800 and even less if you are willing to go on the second hand market for things.

[Absimiliard]

Yet the 3090ti costs 4 times the PS5 for the card alone (at least on Newegg) - which is what many on here are saying -- the price and performance gap between a 'good enough' PC that equals the PS5 or Series X will almost always be 2 or 3 times the cost of those consoles, unless someone can show somewhere a PC system that matches the consoles for $500.

I have all 3 so don't really have any issues, but I think no one should disparage any particular way to play as being terrible or trash, as some have done. I mean, I love PC and consoles equally and, to be honest with recent PC ports, no matter the power of the PC, if the port is terrible, console may just be the 'best' way to play, at least until PC port optimization or patches.

For $500? Unless you find someone very generous on their pricing for refurbished units or an electronics store having a going out of business sale, you're probably not hitting that mark. You can, however, meet or exceed a PS5's overall performance without crossing the $1000 dollar mark if you know where and when to shop. This is speaking purely in terms of specs, mind. Whether or not titles are being released in a state of poor optimization (or worse, have a kernel-level anti-cheat with them) is another matter entirely. For whatever reason, gaming companies do seem to be fine with releasing shoddier products on PC. I'm of the opinion this is due in part to the fact they know the consumers will fix the problems themselves, without these gaming companies ever having to lift a finger.

[Hafu]

My 3090ti speaks differently XD

Your 3090ti costs more than the amount I outlined alone, never mind the other parts you need to actually have a functioning PC out of it.

Hardware performance in the PS5 is roughly the equivalent of a 2070/3060 on the nvidia side, the graphics card eats up nearly all of what the PS5 costs a user alone there.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

Your 3090ti costs more than the amount I outlined alone, never mind the other parts you need to actually have a functioning PC out of it.

Hardware performance in the PS5 is roughly the equivalent of a 2070/3060 on the nvidia side, the graphics card eats up nearly all of what the PS5 costs a user alone there.

But see I rather have something that will always outperform. Consoles can never catch up to PC's. That has always been and always will be. PC's can make games last 10x much longer then consoles when you can add mods etc to it that extends the life of a game. Consoles can never do that because consoles don't really like mods unless you mod your system which is a big no no. Plus PC has emulator programs etc if we want to play old games for free where consoles may support a few old games but charge you. That is the magic of owning a pc over console. Plus the PC community can fix issues in games where devs may have forgotten or refused to fix, can't do that on console

[Raven2014]

But see I rather have something that will always outperform. Consoles can never catch up to PC's. That has always been and always will be. PC's can make games last 10x much longer then consoles when you can add mods etc to it that extends the life of a game. Consoles can never do that because consoles don't really like mods unless you mod your system which is a big no no. Plus PC has emulator programs etc if we want to play old games for free where consoles may support a few old games but charge you. That is the magic of owning a pc over console. Plus the PC community can fix issues in games where devs may have forgotten or refused to fix, can't do that on console

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this post though? If you're trying to argue PC is superior I don't think anyone would argue. After all you get what you pay for. But at the same time, it's better to pay for what you need. Like ... sure, a Ferrari is always better than a Toyota, but also cost a lot more. If you're someone who desire a Ferrari and have use for it and can afford it ... sure, go ahead. But for a lot of people, a Ferrari is nothing more but an excess.


Like, I'm sure no one will turn you down if you just gift them a gaming PC for free, but most people who like to game on Console only because that's enough gaming for them, and a console is the appropriate amount of investment for what they want. You can eschew as many virtues of the PC as you want, just like someone can tell me all the greatness of a Ferrari ... it's all a moot point because I don't need it, and as such see no reason to pay through the nose for it.

And I'm saying that as a PC guy, the "latest" console I have is a PS4 that I bought 2 years ago when the PS5 came out.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this post though? If you're trying to argue PC is superior I don't think anyone would argue. After all you get what you pay for. But at the same time, it's better to pay for what you need. Like ... sure, a Ferrari is always better than a Toyota, but also cost a lot more. If you're someone who desire a Ferrari and have use for it and can afford it ... sure, go ahead. But for a lot of people, a Ferrari is nothing more but an excess.


Like, I'm sure no one will turn you down if you just gift them a gaming PC for free, but most people who like to game on Console only because that's enough gaming for them, and a console is the appropriate amount of investment for what they want. You can eschew as many virtues of the PC as you want, just like someone can tell me all the greatness of a Ferrari ... it's all a moot point because I don't need it, and as such see no reason to pay through the nose for it.

And I'm saying that as a PC guy, the "latest" console I have is a PS4 that I bought 2 years ago when the PS5 came out.

but the thing about console is most things they are doing require a monthly upgrade for online stuff to play whereas PC doesn't have to. I just want exclusive titles to be done with it's 2023 and exclusive titles just earns them less money since they are focused on one party and not multiple

[Raven2014]

but the thing about console is most things they are doing require a monthly upgrade for online stuff to play whereas PC doesn't have to. I just want exclusive titles to be done with it's 2023 and exclusive titles just earns them less money since they are focused on one party and not multiple

That's ... literally have nothing to do with what I said. Also if you want to talk about "update", the PC have far more. Window update, driver update.

Also I'm sure the dev know enough to pick a gameplan that will give them the most money, I don't think you need to worry about that on their behalf.

[Velvet_Lunarfang]

That's ... literally have nothing to do with what I said. Also if you want to talk about "update", the PC have far more. Window update, driver update.

Also I'm sure the dev know enough to pick a gameplan that will give them the most money, I don't think you need to worry about that on their behalf.

well my fingers crossed when SE fails. God only knows they have done poorly in over 15 years with lackluster IP's. Look at Forspoken DOA