Quote Originally Posted by R041 View Post
Yeah, the boom wasn't because Shadowbringers was good. It's because WoW was bad and there was a major media campaign to get everyone to quit. We can't really conflate the 2, because if we did then we wouldn't be low pop right now.

It's not like we magically solved all of our problems, and we all of a sudden had better systems than WoW. They're 2 very different games. WoW arguably has better gameplay engagement and longevity overall.

Also don't compare XIV to other MMOs, you need to compare it to all Live Service games. This isn't 2001 anymore, the line is blurred.
The low population is fairly normal during catch up patches though.
I know I personally (and a lot of people I play with) LOVED shadowbringer. Endwalker less so, but you can't amount all of the success of the game to wow failing. The argument you used as the 2 games being very different works for both instances here.

So let me get this straight, are you comparing content that we get in patches to other games (if so that's not a fair comparison at all) or are you comparing the expansions to other games?