SE, no effort anywhere lately.

[kpxmanifesto]

I mean yeah, its minimum effort and people just rush to buy anything they put out, no matter how mediocre it is and how lazy it is, as long as people keep buying, they'll keep making mediocre content, be it on the mog shop or in the game.

Yeah, this. Also, I feel like SE is testing the waters for how lazy they can get and still have people buy their stuff. So far so good.

[Melorie]

Or just check out YT. On just one video there, you'll probably find more unique people posting about how much they're enjoying EW and how good they think it is than you'll find on this entire forum. That's not "baseless" - it's reality. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it any less real.

I feel like at some point you'll ask people to actually use youtube as a way of gathering census data whatsoever, because that's your argument for EVERYTHING lmao.

[R041]

Yeah, this. Also, I feel like SE is testing the waters for how lazy they can get and still have people buy their stuff. So far so good.

We'll see. I think Yoshi's good graces are starting to run out with him basically putting all focus on XVI, and all of the WoW players starting to leave.

Personally I think we're in a nosedive until 7.0 shows some actual progress outside of the same stale status quo.

I think there's always been the dynamic of Yoshi being expected to actually play through the content and understand the gameplay and 'fun' of it all before making his approvals, and now that he doesn't have time for it we're kinda left with him just approving numbers and signing off on assumed 'fun'.

These Devs need to go play some other MMOs for once, not Single Player games. Not Harvest Moon. MMOs. Live Service Games. You know, the thing they're actually developing and selling as a product. It's like they played WoW over a weekend 10 years ago and stopped trying to look around at competition after that.

I'm interested in seeing what the SE shakeup will do, with the CEO stepping down AND Luminous basically being liquidated - What does that mean for us?

1. Does that mean SE is going to allow a faster paced environment to actually compete with current Live Service games?
2. Or are we going to continue to be stuck in the slow content and dev cycle they believe works for the next 10 years, and Yoshi is going to continue to sideline XIV?

He said he wanted to focus on XIV and MMOs, but ran off to XVI. I don't really trust his word anymore unfortunately. I'm not gonna say he should be removed, but maybe he needs a co-director so the ship keeps sailing.

[SassyAssassin]

We're all paying for this content on a regular basis. I don't see why we shouldn't make our complaints/critiques known. And I say this as someone who is, for the most part, satisfied with the game.

There are many actual problems that go unfixed for years (as listed out by R041). Just because the "majority" (can we even confirm that?) of players are fine with how things are, doesn't mean others don't deserve to be heard.

Preach shareholder Mistress :3

[R041]

I also want to say that, if they actually liquidated current Luminous, does that mean they're getting rid of the current version of the engine?

If Yoshi has proven their XIV+ engine is good enough for Single Player games using XVI as an example, and it actually does well.. I'm genuinely afraid that XIV will then be in maintenance mode while Yoshi continues to oversee all future Mainline projects using his established pipeline and engine version.

We cannot survive as a side-project for the next 10 years, we may as well be FFXI.

Sorry I don't really wanna spread doom, it's just my inner-monologue.

[Melorie]

He said he wanted to focus on XIV and MMOs, but ran off to XVI. I don't really trust his word anymore unfortunately. I'm not gonna say he should be removed, but maybe he needs a co-director so the ship keeps sailing.

TBH I have always found strange the way that FFXIV has this person which is the "face" of the dev team. Because if Yoshi is actually someone that is in charge of the game in the way he is marketed up to be, well, that does seem a problem for the game, the dev team AND him. In general, I feel like this whole "that particular guy is a saviour, so let's bring him to every project" that pertains the general gaming industry unfair to all the workers involved.

I honestly don't blame the team for being recognized and wanting a chance to make a proper FF that's part of the main series of single-player games, but at this point it does feel like everyone's overworked and there's been little attention given to their main project. It's too much work and stress and decisions in the hand of few people, that are now working on two different games.

[FlatLined]

Its starting to feel like SE is giving Yoshi-p the Nomura treatment and we all know how well that ended up for him.

[ameliaw]

I find hilarious how when people complain about the lack of content in >this patch, 6.3<, people start talking about how great 6.2's content was.
Also LOL at ''overwhelming majority on youtube'' guy who doesn't understand the concept of ''sampling bias''

[Atelier-Bagur]

We'll see. I think Yoshi's good graces are starting to run out with him basically putting all focus on XVI, and all of the WoW players starting to leave.

Personally I think we're in a nosedive until 7.0 shows some actual progress outside of the same stale status quo.

I think there's always been the dynamic of Yoshi being expected to actually play through the content and understand the gameplay and 'fun' of it all before making his approvals, and now that he doesn't have time for it we're kinda left with him just approving numbers and signing off on assumed 'fun'.

These Devs need to go play some other MMOs for once, not Single Player games. Not Harvest Moon. MMOs. Live Service Games. You know, the thing they're actually developing and selling as a product. It's like they played WoW over a weekend 10 years ago and stopped trying to look around at competition after that.

I'm interested in seeing what the SE shakeup will do, with the CEO stepping down AND Luminous basically being liquidated - What does that mean for us?

1. Does that mean SE is going to allow a faster paced environment to actually compete with current Live Service games?
2. Or are we going to continue to be stuck in the slow content and dev cycle they believe works for the next 10 years, and Yoshi is going to continue to sideline XIV?

He said he wanted to focus on XIV and MMOs, but ran off to XVI. I don't really trust his word anymore unfortunately. I'm not gonna say he should be removed, but maybe he needs a co-director so the ship keeps sailing.

You realize the higher ups PUT him into directing the next FF game due to FFXIV's success right?

"ran off to XVI" My goodness I seriously love how cringe this attitude of yours is.

[R041]

You realize the higher ups PUT him into directing the next FF game due to FFXIV's success right?

"ran off to XVI" My goodness I seriously love how cringe this attitude of yours is.

Yes I'm aware.

Just because he was assigned something potentially outside of his own will, doesn't mean I don't feel somewhat abandoned and confused.
Also, I doubt he'd run with a project if he wasn't at least somewhat happy to do it. You think XVI would be half as good as it looks if Yoshi hated the idea of working on it?

And even if he only did the media rounds, advertisement, and event touring with XVI - Considering how completely wiped out from XIV he seems to be sometimes, I can't imagine he has any valuable time for his MMO outside of critical engagements.

We're on an anime mmo game forum, everything we say is cringe. lol