SE, no effort anywhere lately.

[Stormpeaks]

I mean yeah, its minimum effort and people just rush to buy anything they put out, no matter how mediocre it is and how lazy it is, as long as people keep buying, they'll keep making mediocre content, be it on the mog shop or in the game.

[kpxmanifesto]

I mean yeah, its minimum effort and people just rush to buy anything they put out, no matter how mediocre it is and how lazy it is, as long as people keep buying, they'll keep making mediocre content, be it on the mog shop or in the game.

Yeah, this. Also, I feel like SE is testing the waters for how lazy they can get and still have people buy their stuff. So far so good.

[R041]

Yeah, this. Also, I feel like SE is testing the waters for how lazy they can get and still have people buy their stuff. So far so good.

We'll see. I think Yoshi's good graces are starting to run out with him basically putting all focus on XVI, and all of the WoW players starting to leave.

Personally I think we're in a nosedive until 7.0 shows some actual progress outside of the same stale status quo.

I think there's always been the dynamic of Yoshi being expected to actually play through the content and understand the gameplay and 'fun' of it all before making his approvals, and now that he doesn't have time for it we're kinda left with him just approving numbers and signing off on assumed 'fun'.

These Devs need to go play some other MMOs for once, not Single Player games. Not Harvest Moon. MMOs. Live Service Games. You know, the thing they're actually developing and selling as a product. It's like they played WoW over a weekend 10 years ago and stopped trying to look around at competition after that.

I'm interested in seeing what the SE shakeup will do, with the CEO stepping down AND Luminous basically being liquidated - What does that mean for us?

1. Does that mean SE is going to allow a faster paced environment to actually compete with current Live Service games?
2. Or are we going to continue to be stuck in the slow content and dev cycle they believe works for the next 10 years, and Yoshi is going to continue to sideline XIV?

He said he wanted to focus on XIV and MMOs, but ran off to XVI. I don't really trust his word anymore unfortunately. I'm not gonna say he should be removed, but maybe he needs a co-director so the ship keeps sailing.

[Melorie]

He said he wanted to focus on XIV and MMOs, but ran off to XVI. I don't really trust his word anymore unfortunately. I'm not gonna say he should be removed, but maybe he needs a co-director so the ship keeps sailing.

TBH I have always found strange the way that FFXIV has this person which is the "face" of the dev team. Because if Yoshi is actually someone that is in charge of the game in the way he is marketed up to be, well, that does seem a problem for the game, the dev team AND him. In general, I feel like this whole "that particular guy is a saviour, so let's bring him to every project" that pertains the general gaming industry unfair to all the workers involved.

I honestly don't blame the team for being recognized and wanting a chance to make a proper FF that's part of the main series of single-player games, but at this point it does feel like everyone's overworked and there's been little attention given to their main project. It's too much work and stress and decisions in the hand of few people, that are now working on two different games.

[Equitable_Remedy]

people just rush to buy anything they put out

no matter how mediocre it is

If people keep paying for the content, maybe your opinion isn't actually as universal as you think it is.

Revealed preference, my friends.

[Stormpeaks]

If people keep paying for the content, maybe your opinion isn't actually as universal as you think it is.

Revealed preference, my friends.

A preference for mediocrity, and low standards, yes.

[Zebraoracle]

If people keep paying for the content, maybe your opinion isn't actually as universal as you think it is.

Revealed preference, my friends.

Not sure what your point is considering the online store is objectively garbage and rips the players off. People will always whale out for stuff like that regardless of how bad it is, doesn't automatically mean it's good.

[SaltyDaddy]

Not sure what your point is considering the online store is objectively garbage and rips the players off. People will always whale out for stuff like that regardless of how bad it is, doesn't automatically mean it's good.

Yeah, we can look at games like Diablo Immortal. Its not good, its not healthy, it rippes them off, but they still do it. I would tbh buy some things of FF14 online story.... But 20€ for an outfit is something Im not gonna supoort. But they know its worth it for them, because they know people gonna buy it. So it not worth lowering the price, because the ammount of people who would gonna buy it for cheaper is not that higher, as ammount of people who are gonna buy it anyway. So they would loose money.

[Zebraoracle]

Yeah, we can look at games like Diablo Immortal. Its not good, its not healthy, it rippes them off, but they still do it. I would tbh buy some things of FF14 online story.... But 20€ for an outfit is something Im not gonna supoort. But they know its worth it for them, because they know people gonna buy it. So it not worth lowering the price, because the ammount of people who would gonna buy it for cheaper is not that higher, as ammount of people who are gonna buy it anyway. So they would loose money.

I mean look at lootboxes and gamepasses. Completely predatory practices that prey on people with poor impulse control/gambling addictions, yet people still shell out tons of money for that stuff, some of which are *HORRENDOUSLY* unfair/require a ton of investment to get anything good.