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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PredatoryCatgirl View Post
    This is really not as hard as you think it is. First off, they have it set so that the more people online, the fewer credits you earn, and this is deliberate so that large FCs don't rocket past small ones. Secondly, just as now there is a market for magitek repair kits, all this will do is create a market for militia chokers, or whatever the easiest thing to craft for the most credits is.

    Any measure of resource requirement that isn't an overly taxing punishment on a small FC can be easily overcome by a single rich player.
    I understand that a single rich player has the potential to overcome this fairly easily.

    The question would be if it's worth it to them. Why are they buying the additional houses in the first place?

    If they are just looking for more houses to own and decorate, then nothing is going to stop them. They will always find a way around it.

    If the goal is additional workshop access for gil farming, though, does it become worth it if almost all the gil you're making off the workshop has to be put back into generating the FC credits needed to pay the rent? Militia chokers are nice for getting to level 6 quickly. They're one heck of a pain in the neck for generating company credits in large amounts.

    Note I didn't even suggest an amount of company credits that I feel reasonable for rent. I don't have access to data that SE would have on how many company credits are generated by typical FCs. All I have to go by would be the amounts generated by the FCs I belong to.

    The one this character belongs to is a good size though not what most would consider large. One of my alts had inherited it when the original FC leaders took an extended break from the game for RL reasons. I gave it to a friend who did want to run a FC after the former leaders came back and no longer wanted it. The FC had very little in the way of company credits when I gave it to him because my alt had been the only active member for about 6 months. I was actually using the Militia Chokers to get credits to buy Ceruleum tanks at times. But it's almost 4 years later now and the FC has close to 70 million company credits available.

    I have a small FC I run with an alt on Coeurl that's a sort of "haven" for friends who have alts they occasionally want to play in a quiet atmosphere away from the activity and noise in their main characters' FCs. Since activity isn't constant, there's only 2.8 million credits built up after 18 months (but the workshop is running with max level subs so it's going through Ceruleum tanks fairly fast).

    Then there's the FC another alt belongs to on Marilith. It has 5 unique members currently active on a weekly basis and 6 that play intermittently as RL allows. It's up to 3.5 million credits already in the not quite 4 months since Marilith opened.

    If the latter is typical for the small FCs, then charging 250k company credits a month for rent wouldn't be a stretch for most though it would be a stretch for my Coeurl alt FC where it's just my alt plus a few others that log in about once a month or so. But it could also be argued that my alt FC doesn't really need a house because of the limited activity.

    Now look at a rent charge of 250k credits from the perspective of someone who is getting multiple FC houses to workshop farm. The FC master characters aren't active characters generating company credits. There are no other active members generating company credits. The credits they're currently using to run their subs come mainly from items purchased for Expert Deliveries. With the rent, they'd have to buy that much more. That starts taking a huge chunk out of the profits they're making from the workshops.

    Is it still worth the effort for a minimal return? Sure, they could invite players to join their FCs to generate the needed credits but it's a risk as the players they are likely to get would eventually leave to join active FCs or stop playing so there goes their credit source until more players are recruited.

    There are no perfect solutions but I think a company credit based rent system for FC houses would at least reduce the number of players who are obtaining multiple FC houses for personal use.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 02-27-2023 at 11:22 PM.