Fake FCs' Housing Abuse

[Reinha]

Another option would be to charge FCs rent in the form of Company Credits. Genuinely active FCs (once they've been established for a few months) are usually swimming in credits even after what's needed to run the subs and airship, and buying FC actions. Credits build up much faster than they get used because there's not anything useful to spend them on outside of the actions, ceruleum tanks and maybe getting Voidrake/Althyk Lavender seeds to grow.

Company credits are only accumulated by doing crappy casual and leveling content (that also reward GC seals) which is not something everyone participates in. This kind of "rent" would only be acceptable if it applied equally to the main culprits behind the housing shortage: private house owners. There'd be a lot more houses available if people actually had to pay CG seals to maintain their house, but are we really suggesting people need to slave away doing specific content they don't enjoy just to have a house? Auto-demolition is how the game frees up houses from inactive users.

The only thing that needs to be done is to prevent users from buying a free company house if they have a character in another free company on the same server, and that free company has an estate.

[Jojoya]

Company credits are only accumulated by doing crappy casual and leveling content (that also reward GC seals) which is not something everyone participates in. This kind of "rent" would only be acceptable if it applied equally to the main culprits behind the housing shortage: private house owners. There'd be a lot more houses available if people actually had to pay CG seals to maintain their house, but are we really suggesting people need to slave away doing specific content they don't enjoy just to have a house? Auto-demolition is how the game frees up houses from inactive users.

The only thing that needs to be done is to prevent users from buying a free company house if they have a character in another free company on the same server, and that free company has an estate.

There are a lot of different ways to generate company credits. No one is forced into specific content, though certainly some ways are more efficient for gaining credits than others. That's something I'd actually like to see SE changed - I think Expert Delivery and HQ crafting are overvalued when it comes to generating credits.

There's no reason to apply it to private house owners because 1) they don't get company credits, those go to the FC, and 2) FCs get additional features in their houses that private owners don't get.

I get why you'd be upset with the idea considering you're in a 3 member FC that owns a large. But you could have also gotten a private house and added the other 2 FC members as tenants. You're part of the problem by creating artificial demand for FC houses by using a FC for personal reasons.

The point of this is to lower demand for plots by fake FCs, which in turn can increase supply for others.

[Stormpeaks]

There are a lot of different ways to generate company credits. No one is forced into specific content, though certainly some ways are more efficient for gaining credits than others. That's something I'd actually like to see SE changed - I think Expert Delivery and HQ crafting are overvalued when it comes to generating credits.

There's no reason to apply it to private house owners because 1) they don't get company credits, those go to the FC, and 2) FCs get additional features in their houses that private owners don't get.

I get why you'd be upset with the idea considering you're in a 3 member FC that owns a large. But you could have also gotten a private house and added the other 2 FC members as tenants. You're part of the problem by creating artificial demand for FC houses by using a FC for personal reasons.

The point of this is to lower demand for plots by fake FCs, which in turn can increase supply for others.

For NA only ? Sure

Not for EU, there are enough houses on EU for everyone.

Also company credits are stupid easy to get, it would literally do nothing but create annoyance even for what you call "real fcs", forcing them to do things they dont want to do because they need to reach x amount of credits.

[Reinha]

There are a lot of different ways to generate company credits. No one is forced into specific content, though certainly some ways are more efficient for gaining credits than others. That's something I'd actually like to see SE changed - I think Expert Delivery and HQ crafting are overvalued when it comes to generating credits.

Savage, extremes, unreal, criterion, S ranks and ultimate don't give company credits, do they? So one would be forced into casual content they wouldn't otherwise do. It's a silly idea Square would never implement, because they know not everyone spends their time doing fates and dungeons lol.

I get why you'd be upset with the idea considering you're in a 3 member FC that owns a large. But you could have also gotten a private house and added the other 2 FC members as tenants. You're part of the problem by creating artificial demand for FC houses by using a FC for personal reasons.

The point of this is to lower demand for plots by fake FCs, which in turn can increase supply for others.

Part of what problem? Odin has hundreds of free company plots. If I want to create and run a free company I have the same ability to do so as any fc leader that formed theirs years ago, despite your insinuation that I or anyone looking to share a free company with their loved ones is only allowed to enjoy what other people have built.

Getting free company credits would be trivial, but the part that upsets me is the idea that I'd suffer repeating a braindead activity someone without endgame experience conveniently considers the best way to earn housing. This expectation of having to waste my time would be there still, should my fc grow into a 4 man fc that might meet your criteria of a "non-fake" fc.

[Stormpeaks]

To add to what I said earlier :

Cerberus which is one of the most populated world on Chaos, has 510 plots open for both fc/personal
Ragnarok has 390
Phantom has a whooping 4111 plots open
and last but no least, Sagittarius has 5288 plots open.

Light is the same thing, if not with even more plots open.

There is no housing crisis on EU, keep that stuff and all those restrictions for NA if they have to take place.

As for NA

Dynamis has :

Halicarnassus : 4072 plots open.
Seraph : 3366 plots open.
Maduin : 4398 plots open.
Marilith : 4449 plots open.

[Sindele]

The only thing that needs to be done is to prevent users from buying a free company house if they have a character in another free company on the same server, and that free company has an estate.

This is, and has always been, one of those solutions that sounds good but doesn't work on its face, only hurting random innocent players. It doesn't stop the current loophole, because blocking buying doesn't mean anything when you're bouncing houses from one account to another immediately - all it would do is add the need for the buyer to leave after transfer. Blocking transfers is opening a huge can of worms with undesirable knock-on effects for regular FCs (lmao your FC house has been randomly destroyed because your leader idled out and the FC passed to an officer who has alts in housed FCs).

But also, just in general, my third-string alt that's a low-rank member in an RP guild that has a small house should have no bearing on what I do with my main; and creating a restriction that is tantamount to 'all your alts have to leave their FCs and then rejoin after you buy' is just adding a layer of pointless tedium. For similar reasons, you can't just check permissions to see if they're 'really using it', since you can just derank them temporarily. There is no satisfactory way to solve this purely programmatically that both cannot be abused and does not hurt innocent regular players, and it's just not that big of a problem to be worth that.