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    Player Stormpeaks's Avatar
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    Except its just not necessary, there is housing for everyone, and this just adds more annoyances for both "real" fcs as you call them, and "fake fcs", lets just stop trying to take things away from people yes ?

    If people want houses on NA, Dynamis is wide open.

    EU has 0 issues with housing, even on the oldest world which is Ragnarok.

    Stop creating a problem where there isnt one.

    This constant obsession with taking things away from people that have worked for what they have is actually becoming gross at this point, or this whole "yes lets add more chores to keeping a house, so people HAVE to do things just in order to keep their houses, that sure is very fun !"
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    Last edited by Stormpeaks; 02-27-2023 at 11:49 PM.

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    Drufel Starwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    It isnt a loophole, its actually intended in the TOS, good try buddy, as per usual making a fool of yourself.
    Again, here's the TOS:
    2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    This constant obsession with taking things away from people that have worked for what they have is actually becoming gross at this point, or this whole "yes lets add more chores to keeping a house, so people HAVE to do things just in order to keep their houses, that sure is very fun !"
    Exploiting loopholes to have things one shouldn't have in the first place isn't "taking away", it's rectifying an abuse. Are you arguing that _UNNAMED should've kept their Omega Ultimate weapons? After all, they put in more "work" than playing the equivalent of an idle clicker game.
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    PaalHenrik's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    Again, here's the TOS:





    Exploiting loopholes to have things one shouldn't have in the first place isn't "taking away", it's rectifying an abuse. Are you arguing that _UNNAMED should've kept their Omega Ultimate weapons? After all, they put in more "work" than playing the equivalent of an idle clicker game.
    Apples and oranges. Unnamed used 3rd party software and got busted. You can get a house very easily in the game. Being able to get a house even after buying a house is not an exploit or a bug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CatStarwind View Post
    Again, here's the TOS:





    Exploiting loopholes to have things one shouldn't have in the first place isn't "taking away", it's rectifying an abuse. Are you arguing that _UNNAMED should've kept their Omega Ultimate weapons? After all, they put in more "work" than playing the equivalent of an idle clicker game.
    Man you remind me of Albangbus1. Once he got his House after his so highly sought after Lottery he went silent. So whats your story?

    Did somebody got a House you wanted?
    Or outbid you on the black market?
    Put somebody an less desirable Housing Skin into your view?
    Did somebody bought into your own ward buyouts?
    Did somebody stole your sand moulds in the kindergarten?
    Or are you just an unhappy person who cannot bear the joy of others and therefore also wants to punish them with his resentment?
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    Last edited by Yodada; 02-28-2023 at 03:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Except its just not necessary, there is housing for everyone, and this just adds more annoyances for both "real" fcs as you call them, and "fake fcs", lets just stop trying to take things away from people yes ?

    If people want houses on NA, Dynamis is wide open.

    EU has 0 issues with housing, even on the oldest world which is Ragnarok.

    Stop creating a problem where there isnt one.

    This constant obsession with taking things away from people that have worked for what they have is actually becoming gross at this point, or this whole "yes lets add more chores to keeping a house, so people HAVE to do things just in order to keep their houses, that sure is very fun !"
    Except it was a problem just 5 months ago for players on NA. Can we be certain it won't be a problem again once 7.0 is released?

    Personally I hope not. I would love for SE to finally be on top of the problem. I also have my doubts that is the case.

    Just as we thought that house availability had been solved back in 4.2 for everyone but Balmung, there is always the chance we'll end up in the same situation again. An abundance of houses available just for it all to disappear almost overnight as new players decided to start the game or as existing players continue to acquire multiple houses.

    Look ahead to 7.0. They've been teasing the possibility of a new starting point for new characters since Shadowbringers. With the Hydaelyn-Zodiark arc ended and the current story arc not expected to go past 6.5, 7.0 seems like the perfect opportunity to finally implement it. That may drawn in those players that have hesitated to play because the need to go though 80-90 levels of content to catch up to the rest of the player base seemed daunting. Other changes, such as the graphics update, may start attracting even more.

    The goal is not to take things away from those who have already earned them. The goal is to discourage players from acquiring more of a limited resource for personal use when there are other players who cannot get that resource due to the limited supply being consumed. Keep in mind it would only affect FC houses and the vast majority of FCs would have no problems keeping on top of the credits needed through normal game play.

    Keep in mind such changes are only necessary if SE cannot come up with a better solution for meeting demand and fails to be able to continue to add new housing servers to host new wards so we end up back where things were at Shadowbringers launch. If SE can do that and give all interested players equal opportunity at owning multiple houses without having to compete against other players for a small chance at getting one, then all of these suggestions become unnecessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Except it was a problem just 5 months ago for players on NA. Can we be certain it won't be a problem again once 7.0 is released?

    Personally I hope not. I would love for SE to finally be on top of the problem. I also have my doubts that is the case.

    Just as we thought that house availability had been solved back in 4.2 for everyone but Balmung, there is always the chance we'll end up in the same situation again. An abundance of houses available just for it all to disappear almost overnight as new players decided to start the game or as existing players continue to acquire multiple houses.

    Look ahead to 7.0. They've been teasing the possibility of a new starting point for new characters since Shadowbringers. With the Hydaelyn-Zodiark arc ended and the current story arc not expected to go past 6.5, 7.0 seems like the perfect opportunity to finally implement it. That may drawn in those players that have hesitated to play because the need to go though 80-90 levels of content to catch up to the rest of the player base seemed daunting. Other changes, such as the graphics update, may start attracting even more.

    The goal is not to take things away from those who have already earned them. The goal is to discourage players from acquiring more of a limited resource for personal use when there are other players who cannot get that resource due to the limited supply being consumed. Keep in mind it would only affect FC houses and the vast majority of FCs would have no problems keeping on top of the credits needed through normal game play.

    Keep in mind such changes are only necessary if SE cannot come up with a better solution for meeting demand and fails to be able to continue to add new housing servers to host new wards so we end up back where things were at Shadowbringers launch. If SE can do that and give all interested players equal opportunity at owning multiple houses without having to compete against other players for a small chance at getting one, then all of these suggestions become unnecessary.
    You want rent system fine tell SE to drop the Demo system no double dipping and double screwing over players. One or the other dont like it dont make suggestions.
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