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    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    This is exactly why if you drop out if you get Ivalice you lose your rewards for the day. There's no issue in dropping if you have to, but if you sign up for a roulette, you need to be ready to get anything in that roulette. If you try to dodge, then you also lose the rewards from the roulette.
    I can assure you, that will not be anywhere enough to stop me from dropping it.

    Sometimes people do need the stick. I def think a good portion of the playerbase would put up with it TBH. Maybe not you, but enough, since theyre gonna want the rewards for that day.
    First, try to force your player to play the content they don't want to is never a smart idea. Goad them and incite them to is one thing, but try to beat them into it with a stick is a recipe for disaster, many had tried that route, none had succeed. People avoid other raids already because they hate it, force people into it just gonna make it boil over.

    Secondly, I can tell you right now your estimation of a "good portion of playerbase would put up with it" is unfounded. For once, like I said, you don't want to make the player to put up with it. But more importantly, your assumption would only work if the game offer few alternative. Fortunately (or unfortunately for you) FF14 offers more option than most people can exhaust, be it EXP or tome. Unless you're in a rush to level or cap something asap + playing religiously for 3-5 hours a day, you won't be able to cycle through the complete set anyway.

    The reason the Alliance roulette is popular is because it's currently one of the better option, and the only reason it's the better option is because you can reliably avoid the longer raid. Do something to that just mean it will be relegate to a lower order, and with limited time a day, it would just become an option not many would touch. Like ... I think I use like 2-3 things to level a day on average, and I would already max every class not even half way through the expack.


    I keep saying this: you can not "force" people to play content they don't want to, especially when the game is chokeful of alternative options.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ath192 View Post
    LOL no, thats a stretch. Imagine not doing content at all for fear of getting it in a roulette?? Like, why are they playing a game if they dont wanna play it? At best this would be someone with a lot of alts but this is a fraction of the playerbase that would take this "option" if you can call it that.
    It's not a stretch, and why you would need to imagine something that actually happening?

    Also, you conflate it with playing something once or twice for the experience (or farm until you have the glam) with something people ok with playing day after day as a routine. I, like many others don't use Alliance roullete on our main that have them unlock exactly for that reason. And it will be no different with new players.

    For whatever reason behind it doesn't matter, the reality CT is popular because it's something people don't mind doing days after day. If you try to force people into Nier/Ivalice every days - again, I don't care what method you will use to achieve that - the result will simply mean the roulette itself will simply become a much less attractive option.
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    Last edited by Raven2014; 02-24-2023 at 03:36 PM.