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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    That he was surprised that people cared deeply about the game's lore. Honestly this kinda proves my whole point made in another thread about answering some lore questions in one of the recent live Q&As. Basically the whole thing about him coming up with a reason for why Venat purposefully allowed some of the big Convocation members to escape unsundering like Lahabrea, Emet-Selch and Elidibus etc. That answer felt...half-assed since:

    1. It wasnt a detail that was ever brought up in the main story (as far as I'm aware) and

    2. Its goes against the entire purpose of sundering. Although we could debate that her reasoning of seemingly leaving those 3 members intact was for the belief of preserving the WoL's timeline as she believes that "us" were the key to solving the dilemma. After all, the WoL explained the events that transpired in his timeline to Venat, Emet and Hythlodeus so the plausibility of her basing her actions on what has already come to pass is warranted. However I still go with the fact that usually with these kind of stories its never too well to try to rationalize a story as long as it feels reasonable grounded but obviously some people dont think so and that in of itself is a whole 'nother debate.

    But basically my idea was that Yoshida isnt too wrapped up in the game's story details and its almost always the writing team themselves whom come up with the meat and potatoes of the plot with Yoshida supervising and giving direction and layout to the game's plot. Which makes sense for his position. So him giving such a out of the blue answer like Venat letting them go, feels so out of the left field. Well...at least for me it does.
    Do you have a source on that quote?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    Do you have a source on that quote?
    There's an official transcript thread of the entire Q&A section in LLXVIII

    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/456921

    And looking back to the question that was asked about Venat intentionally letting Emet and others survive sundering. Ok, so I guess I forgot there was that bit of dialogue from Emet after he appeared to save the day where he says “So, here I am Venat. I suppose you needed me to tie it all together…”

    Alright so they do address it in game, however it seemed the intention was a gamble as she wouldnt know if they would've survived or not. But I guess this goes with my theory that her reasoning for allowing them to survive so that they can one day help the WoL and she wanted to preserve the original timeline rather than risk changing it. Yoshida even says in a later answer that his interpretation of the timeline mechanics with Elpis is:

    "With that said, my personal interpretation is that the past and present were always the part of the same timeline. Although there was still a possibility for the timelines to diverge, the Warrior of Light was unwittingly acting in accordance with Venat’s plans, which unified the past and present. Another interpretation might be that Venat worked really hard behind the scenes to ensure that the timeline wouldn’t go awry.

    Seeing how Argos took to us on our first meeting, I’d say that proves that the past and present were already unified."

    So basically Venat did what she did to make sure the timeline that she was given account by the WoL didnt deviate and preserve him having to come to the past (to play the shitty games that suck ass) to foretell Venat, Emet and Hythlodeus of the future events being still possible. At least this again is just my interpretation to her actions and to me this makes sense, whether you still find it ethical or not is a debate.

    Although I will also add to that debate whether its ethical to alter events to prevent a tragedy only for it to lead to a butterfly effect and possibly allow an even greater one to occur in the future.
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