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    Quote Originally Posted by caffe_macchiato View Post
    Hold up. I thought we weren't in a drought?

    I had another game catch my interest. One I now play two days a week, and pay for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tetsujin View Post
    My favorite part was wanting to check out the new deep dungeon but realizing they're drip feeding the patch content as well.
    At least prior to EW we would have had Beast Tribes to log in daily for at the start of the patch. But that too is no more.
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  3. #303
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    I had another game catch my interest. One I now play two days a week, and pay for.
    Its your Money, spend it how you wish.
    But if you complain about paying for something you barely play or enjoy...remember...you're the one that authorized the transaction.
    (Not a personal jab at you, just a general statement to everyone)
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  4. #304
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
    This statement is absurd. Game companies say or imply "no" on a regular basis.

    "The Customer is Always Right" was a retail sales slogan for department store staff in the 19th century, not a manifesto for game developers. It is a stupid slogan when one considers those "customers" who are either dishonest or unrealistic in their expectations.

    A game company that never says "no" to players is a game company on its way to bankruptcy.
    A game company that dont try to please its playerbase is also on its way to bankruptcy. Holy shit. Everything you have spoken so far is absoluttely out of the original meaning and you are taking everything out of yer arse.

    Also, you know nothing about WOW it seems. In wow, you werent some fricking warrior of light, with the size of potato defeating big bad for good. You are literally just one of the soldiers. Since they have taken the "hero" route, all the story went to shit. It never was meant to be story like FF. Those 2 games had completly different story telling and completly different environment for it.

    ALso, we are not speaking about story here. Wtf are you about. Are you just on some crusade to defeat all those FF haters, who dares to speak about your loveable game with pristine best story ever? Cmoon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    A game company that dont try to please its playerbase is also on its way to bankruptcy.
    Daddy Chill, you're to Salty.
    The idea isnt to not try and please your playerbase, but if you listen to everything they say under the idea "the customer is always right" then you will ruin the game and the company because you tried to do everything the customer asks for, under this idea to always listen to the customer.
    Which is a bad idea, because often what they want & expect can be unrealistic, or just frankly it wont resonate with everybody. You want to aim for the best outcome, which means not everyone will be happy or get what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPZ2 View Post
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    It's not a comparison to the story it's about the game's content being so short lived that it might as well not be there which makes it feel like in WoD where you had the garrison and raiding. The problem with WoD was never the story cause no one cares about the WoW story anyway it was always about not having a reason to log on regularly outside of raid logging. Comparisons don't have to be 1:1 I don't get why you guys keep going on weird tangents from what I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaltyDaddy View Post
    A game company that dont try to please its playerbase is also on its way to bankruptcy. Holy shit. Everything you have spoken so far is absoluttely out of the original meaning and you are taking everything out of yer arse.

    Also, you know nothing about WOW it seems. In wow, you werent some fricking warrior of light, with the size of potato defeating big bad for good. You are literally just one of the soldiers. Since they have taken the "hero" route, all the story went to shit. It never was meant to be story like FF. Those 2 games had completly different story telling and completly different environment for it.

    ALso, we are not speaking about story here. Wtf are you about. Are you just on some crusade to defeat all those FF haters, who dares to speak about your loveable game with pristine best story ever? Cmoon.
    Absolutely based poster with a based username who makes based posts. Have we found the chosen one? The one known as Gigachad?

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  8. #308
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    Not at all, but I wouldn't be suprised if people found a way to justify the mediocrity we've been getting lately.
    I guess FF16 DID affect FF14 in a way.
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  9. #309
    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakhesys View Post
    Not at all, but I wouldn't be suprised if people found a way to justify the mediocrity we've been getting lately.
    I guess FF16 DID affect FF14 in a way.
    It's about the same as ShB, tbh, in content amount. Story quality is...well, ShB and HW were the highest quality we could get. This is just a filler arc, it's nowhere near that level of quality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanarkand-Ronso View Post
    Daddy Chill, you're to Salty.
    The idea isnt to not try and please your playerbase, but if you listen to everything they say under the idea "the customer is always right" then you will ruin the game and the company because you tried to do everything the customer asks for, under this idea to always listen to the customer.
    Which is a bad idea, because often what they want & expect can be unrealistic, or just frankly it wont resonate with everybody. You want to aim for the best outcome, which means not everyone will be happy or get what they want.
    Very true. I had read many dumb suggestions even in this thread that would just not work in FF. But we are not talking about "bring some bad ideas into the game for the sake of it". I only said that devs cant just say "We dont want to bring new content into our schedule". That would just spread hate towards them. And then dome DPZ came up with "Customer is always right" bs that nobody cares about.

    The truth is devs stopped talking to us long ago. We dont know how the dev team works nowadays. They never come up with content ideas until they are set on for a long time already. We can only pray if they show us some concepts during Fanfest. But only time Yoshi talk to us is, when he is madge about some players zooming thru Omega and threaten us about losing even more content. It just doesnt feel right when everybody thinks, that this MMO should be empty most of the patch cycle as everybody is on a break.
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