Was any of the 6.3 content worth waiting 4 months for?

[ElysiumDragon]

The main problem is that we're significantly behind on the relic weapons, which usually act as the expansion's time and content sink.

While ShB had a delayed relic compared to previous expansions, that was largely because of Covid tanking the patch cycle almost immediately after 5.1 (and also probably their work on FF16 in the background). Whereas with Endwalker, we're over halfway through the expansion, maybe a year or so out from 7.0, and we're still stuck on the base relic weapons (and even those weapons were mediocre for gearing purposes).

[SaltyDaddy]

As for the loss of a BA or DR "Raid Tier" you can directly correlate the loss of that content with the gain of criterion dungeons. We didn't get a new large scale raid but we did get new variable difficulty dungeons that we will, iirc from the LL, get a new set of before the end of the expansion.

You can say it is BA/DRS replacement.... without the atmosfere of fighting with 40+ another players and lost actions making it impossible of changing your gamepay. Criteons are amazing... just not replayable as BA/DRS I still play to this day. Old content is just more fun.

[RyuDragnier]

The main problem is that we're significantly behind on the relic weapons, which usually act as the expansion's time and content sink.

While ShB had a delayed relic compared to previous expansions, that was largely because of Covid tanking the patch cycle almost immediately after 5.1 (and also probably their work on FF16 in the background). Whereas with Endwalker, we're over halfway through the expansion, maybe a year or so out from 7.0, and we're still stuck on the base relic weapons (and even those weapons were mediocre for gearing purposes).

Actually, we're on the same schedule as ShB. Base Resistance weapons were added at 5.25, just as Manderville weapons were added in 6.25. The upgrade quests for Resistance weapons was 5.35, just as we're about to get the upgrade quests in 6.35.

[Amenara]

You can say it is BA/DRS replacement.... without the atmosfere of fighting with 40+ another players and lost actions making it impossible of changing your gamepay. Criteons are amazing... just not replayable as BA/DRS I still play to this day. Old content is just more fun.

Not agreeing or disagreeing, just saying the content was replaced with new stuff in EW. I think if there were any reward/incentive structure at all with Criterion dungeons there would be a lot more replayability to it and maybe it could be a bit of a grindy content people are looking for. Maybe the relic weapon will utilize it as it seems like it would be pretty short-sighted on SE's side to completely abandon content they literally just made.

[DPZ2]

Its more pressure on the devs, but you cant ever say No to your players.

This statement is absurd. Game companies say or imply "no" on a regular basis.

"The Customer is Always Right" was a retail sales slogan for department store staff in the 19th century, not a manifesto for game developers. It is a stupid slogan when one considers those "customers" who are either dishonest or unrealistic in their expectations.

A game company that never says "no" to players is a game company on its way to bankruptcy.

[DPZ2]

MoP was awesome though. EW feels more like a WoD.

Not even close. Warlords of Draenor was the result of a company that wouldn't leave Garrosh imprisoned or dead. A company that also never allows the player to actually defeat the main "bad guy" every expansion. Did we defeat Arthus? No. Did we defeat Garrosh? No. Did we defeat Sargeras? No. In every case we beat them to within an inch of their lives and then some NPC who wasn't in the fight runs in and kills the bad guy. Because a player can never beat them on their own.

I enjoyed Mists of Panderia and, for the most part, Warlords of Draenor. Endwalker's themes are foreign to most players, but both the game play and story line were suitable for Final Fantasy XIV.

The story as I saw it was a journey from despair to hope. It's told in Thavnair. It's told in Garlemald. It's told in the actions of the Sharlayans. It's told from the viewpoint of those who simply gave up.

Those who have expressed displeasure with the story focus mostly on "this was supposed to be the War with Garlemald expansion", when we knew beforehand that Garlemald would play a minor role in the whole thing.

The after-story is about the Void shard. The biggest mistake of the Ascians, as it appeared to remove a bit of everyone's potential soul for eternity.

If you must compare Endwalker to a WoW expansion, it would be Shadowlands, where similar themes appear to have been glossed over by cut-scenes of well-known NPCs having feelings.

[DPZ2]

One other thought.

If you really enjoy the battle design of World of Warcraft, with Raids and Mythic Dungeons, subscribe to that game and play it. You can stay subscribed for the things you apparently enjoy about this game as well. There isn't any law that forbids players from enjoying multiple MMORPGs at the same time.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

"The Customer is Always Right" was a retail sales slogan for department store staff in the 19th century, not a manifesto for game developers. It is a stupid slogan when one considers those "customers" who are either dishonest or unrealistic in their expectations.
A game company that never says "no" to players is a game company on its way to bankruptcy.

One other thought.

If you really enjoy the battle design of World of Warcraft, with Raids and Mythic Dungeons, subscribe to that game and play it. You can stay subscribed for the things you apparently enjoy about this game as well. There isn't any law that forbids players from enjoying multiple MMORPGs at the same time.

Its very refreshing to see some sense on these Forums sometimes.

[Barwara]

So I really enjoyed the patch, as I was looking forward to some new content. But as a casual player who doesn't like repeating content over and over, I spent two days on the MSQ, unlocked the new alliance raid (which tbh is my favourite so far), and then got to housing. And since then I haven't really done anything besides. :/ And I'm at a point where I don't feel very inspired to do anything other than housing... and now I'm out of gill which means I need to do other content to earn it and I simply don't want to. XD

[Tetsujin]

My favorite part was wanting to check out the new deep dungeon but realizing they're drip feeding the patch content as well.