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  1. #511
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    who's opinion is worth more some guy who has a Stormblood doggo or someone who actively raids savage?
    Oh my don’t make me stand up for zephyr. It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have any mounts or current raid experience. They are entitled to their opinion. The way you’re really hammering on the “you don’t have mount” and “you just unsynced them” is both cringey and pathetic. Sing a different tune. You’ve gotten stale real quick.
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    People unsyncing content but caring about the legitimacy of the clears of others, yea okay sure.
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  3. #513
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saraide View Post
    People unsyncing content but caring about the legitimacy of the clears of others, yea okay sure.
    It's almost as though unsyncing is something the Dev's implemented in their game for old content that no longer carries the same level (or any) prestige, and cheating is not only not a game feature, but against the TOS. But yes, I guess those are the same thing or you can make analogies from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Oh my don’t make me stand up for zephyr. It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have any mounts or current raid experience. They are entitled to their opinion. The way you’re really hammering on the “you don’t have mount” and “you just unsynced them” is both cringey and pathetic. Sing a different tune. You’ve gotten stale real quick.
    It's their opinion that the lack of mount indicate a lack of raiding experience and they are entitled to it.
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  5. #515
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kolaina View Post
    Oh my don’t make me stand up for zephyr. It doesn’t matter if he doesn’t have any mounts or current raid experience. They are entitled to their opinion. The way you’re really hammering on the “you don’t have mount” and “you just unsynced them” is both cringey and pathetic. Sing a different tune. You’ve gotten stale real quick.
    Seeing this quote brought a tear to my eye. What is going on here? <3

    And yes I had to make it weird.
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    Last edited by ZephyrMenodora; 02-20-2023 at 01:47 AM.

  6. #516
    Player Kolaina's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    It's their opinion that the lack of mount indicate a lack of raiding experience and they are entitled to it.
    Not having mounts doesn’t discredit an opinion. Especially pertaining to mods
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    For me the heart of why this bothers me is because I was a hardcore raider in the past, not in XIV but in EQ2 where you needed to coordinate 24 people, not 8, which already was a challenge before the raid even began. I dedicated 30 hours a week to the raid team (something I won't do anymore and is one of the reasons I don't raid anymore - it's addicting to me and not something I want to be tempted by due to other responsibilities now). We went for world or server firsts. So when I had "Cleric Mace of Shiny Shininess" - it had prestige and meant something.

    That's how I used to view raid mounts and gear here - when I see them I'd think, "oh that person cleared the most challenging content. That's cool!" Seeing how commonplace "cheats" are just makes me question how cool that is in XIV compared to my past experiences.

    In the grand scheme of life, does this matter all that much? No. As an MMO hobbiest and someone who was heavily into raiding, and enjoyed the aspect of "oh cool look at that thing you have!" as recognition that I put the time and effort into earning it, I do stlil care on that level.

    I think if you can't clear content as designed, you aren't entitled to top-end gear and mounts. Maybe to most here how I think is strange and no one views clearing current-tier raids as having any prestige. And, as a former really hard-core raider, it's a little sad to me.

    As an aside, I'm not 100% anti-mod of any form. I think parsers are useful tools to help people improve. Our raid team used parsers to help point out who needed to improve in as a supportive manner as possible. It helped people perfect rotations and uptime and they improved as a player. It's a tool I wish was supported here for the educational value it brings. But I think tools that change how the encounter is viewed, or in ESO a mod that actually said "MECHANIC INC! DODGE NOW!" cheapened the encounters to me.
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  8. #518
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    Only "cheating" third party like splatoon is a big no no like nobody is going to freak out because someone used reshade or ACT. Especially when ACT is pretty much mandatory to have if you do high end content.
    The person I quoted originally has a "ZERO" tolerance for addons, and they did argue ACT was cheating. Which is why I asked them, what exactly their point was they were trying to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellsong View Post
    Okay boomer.

  9. #519
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mosha View Post
    You said yourself you did it as current content that was unsynced so like at the end of SB. what's fine I do the same with EX's but that doesn't make you a raider tbf.



    yeah that was a bit harsh I'm just fed up with non-raiders telling us what is correct, I've also hit the post limit so no more replies lmao.
    You're not any more above the rules because you're a current Savage raider, and someone telling you so can be either a WF racer or a Sprout: they wouldn't be wrong either way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobynDaBank View Post
    You're not any more above the rules because you're a current Savage raider, and someone telling you so can be either a WF racer or a Sprout: they wouldn't be wrong either way.
    You dont need to worry about other people getting in trouble with TOS, that's their risk to take and not yours.
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