Far Northern Attire

[Burmecia]

The Sami people are the ones making this alive

And still SE didn't need them necessarily to create this item. Undead aesthetic then?
Where my resistance to this council's thinly veiled greed(*) comes from is the observable fact that the design is clearly NOT only sami. Not the cut, not the pattern, not the colour, not the embroidery. This had been pointed out.
Anyone is free to disagree, but I think that if you're gonna claim something and demand others stop using that something, you better be able to point what that something is.

"It's clearly sami!"
Why so many disagree, then, me included? What's so clearly sami, if it's not any of those details bolded above?

Is it calling it northern, is mental image of people living in far north and dressing warmly for the elements? Out of all the vague claims that would be the stupidest one.

It has taken inspiration from sources all over, that's not unique case even within ff14; sources which are not and cannot copyrighted, creating unique look. No real life people/culture owns this.


(more russian folk costuming which might have given the multibillion company an inspiration)

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[Mosha]

The Sami people are the ones making this alive,

This really erks me because as Burmecia pointed out other Northern European cultures wear very similar garbs that SE could have taken inspiration from. Acting like the Saami have exclusive rights to this kind of attire is actively marginalizing other ethnic groups the Saami share a heritage with.

[SassyAssassin]

This really erks me because as Burmecia pointed out other Northern European wear very similar garbs that SE could of taking inspiration from also. Acting like the Saami have exclusive rights to this kind of attire is actively marginalizing other ethnic groups the Saami share a heritage with.

You tell them sister. Sami council, you’re not the only people with folk clothing.
Also, now I am offended because the Island Shepherd’s blouse looks too much like my culture’s folk clothing, SE giv monies, or at least throw like…..100.000.000 gil and Zenos in my account.

[Mosha]

You tell them sister. Sami council, you’re not the only people with folk clothing.
Also, now I am offended because the Island Shepherd’s blouse looks too much like my culture’s folk clothing, SE giv monies, or at least throw like…..100.000.000 gil and Zenos in my account.

Oh hello again. sorry, I didn't reply to you yesterday I hit the post limit :/
you owe me an Irn-Bru and a Battered Mars bar.

[kyyninen_kirahvi]

To be honest, I think it's useless to argue about this one way or another. The attire is clearly inspired by Finnic clothes like it but different enough not to annoy the majoirty of Sami, which is good enough for me. The thing is that there are regions out side of Sami regions who have same kind of aesthetic.

I could even argue the embroidery looks like Eastern Finnish/Karelian. I think what makes this look like a gákti is the colour blue. Any other colour and there wouldn't be a controversy.

As I've said earlier, the council is aggressive with things like this and this was expected.

I just hope they won't stop adding Finnic or Finnish things in the game.

[Chasingstars]

Why did no one tear apart the indigenous Native American attire that's in game? You know, the New World set? You know why? Because Native Americans aren't looking for a payday,

Assuming its only about a payday is really gross. You are aware that the various native american tribes routinely hate to be lumped together as one singular tribe. The reason the war bonnet was highly discussed on here with an astounding 189 forum pages, is because originally that type of headdress is a Sioux and Cheyenne headdress. This headdress was only later adopted in the 1800s by other tribes but mostly as a show for the moronic tourists who assumed that all tribes must surely dress the same.

and most Native Americans are proud to have their culture and heritage presented in many forms, including names, attire and ways of life.

Yes a specific native american tribe is proud of it when that specific tribe is represented properly.

There wasn't even a stink about it on these forums with the exception of the war bonnet, which I can understand.

You claim to understand it, but as I demonstrated in this post, you don't understand it.

The reason I am fine with the war bonnet as a native american, is even though I am not Sioux or Cheyenne, is because I respect those who also play this game who do belong to those tribes who do want that representation.

And now to let you self-destruct with your own words:

I was pointing out a simple fact of how overboard, woke shit, overly sensitive people are being about video game attire - and no one here is affected - at all - about it.

Comparing video game attire to an indigenous culture's attire. Apples to monkeys.

[RobynDaBank]

As usual, the people not actually Saami are telling everyone that their opinion is more valid, more acceptable, more "sensitive" than even that of the people they claim to "protect" from cultural appropriation. Because if it's about offense, of course the entire group must be offended. But if it's about not giving a carp, suddenly that one opinion isn't a monolith and doesn't speak for all of them.

[Mosha]

As usual, the people not actually Saami are telling everyone that their opinion is more valid, more acceptable, more "sensitive" than even that of the people they claim to "protect" from cultural appropriation. Because if it's about offense, of course the entire group must be offended. But if it's about not giving a carp, suddenly that one opinion isn't a monolith and doesn't speak for all of them.

why is the Saami's opinion the only valid one in regard to this dress? they don't have exclusive ownership to this style of dress as I and many others have pointed out.

[Seraphor]

I haven't seen anyone else mention this yet, but there's the added complication of their licensing deal with Shanda Games.
Shanda Games publish FF14 in China, and they're the ones who design and produce all of these cash shop exclusive items. SE have a reciprocal deal with them, and in turn we get the Chinese outfits a few months later in our cash shop.

Any corrective action on this, if any, will likely require negotiations with Shanda Games... and we all know how the Chinese feel about copywrite law...

SE simply pulling the outfit from the store will undoubtedly cost them money, and editing it likely isn't an option due to the above reciprocal deal.

[CaptainLagbeard]

Most of the world probably didn't even know who the Saami people were before this complaint became a thing...

The way I see it, it's them trying to take the spotlight for a moment by being obnoxious.