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    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    As I understand it ( and bear in mind this was after the Omega incident ) this is what I was told. Check me on this then whats the PC usage in Japan vs console? Percentages?
    I wouldn't know about any percentages, but the evidence is there for you to see. You can travel to Mana and see some JP log runs, if you consider ACT an addon, then they very clearly do use addons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    I wouldn't know about any percentages, but the evidence is there for you to see. You can travel to Mana and see some JP log runs, if you consider ACT an addon, then they very clearly do use addons.
    I mean ACT is objectively an addon/mod/whatever and against TOS. The question is more is it cheating or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    I mean ACT is objectively an addon/mod/whatever and against TOS. The question is more is it cheating or not.
    Again, so is discord. Should the ToS be enacted when the PF finder has parties that require you to join their discord server? I can hear the complaints from the BA runners already if that's the case, lmao. Either way, it's a non issue since we can have this song and dance until the end of service but it's ultimately up to the devs and GMs to decide where the line is drawn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Again, so is discord. Should the ToS be enacted when the PF finder has parties that require you to join their discord server? I can hear the complaints from the BA runners already if that's the case, lmao. Either way, it's a non issue since we can have this song and dance until the end of service but it's ultimately up to the devs and GMs to decide where the line is drawn.
    I agree with your sentiment, but I think realistically we all know Square's never going to punish for discord usage.

    But yes, it's down to them to draw the line.

    Where has the line been drawn? Don't ask don't tell.
    You know who has no say in drawing the line? The witch hunters who act like they are Square's personal police.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    IYou know who has no say in drawing the line? The witch hunters who act like they are Square's personal police.
    You mean the ones that Yoshida specifically said "Don't do this" and "We're not going to persecute every single case, thus don't bother us about it".

    Square's Unpaid Volunteer Policeforce working overtime for no reason is honestly cringe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midareyukki View Post
    You mean the ones that Yoshida specifically said "Don't do this" and "We're not going to persecute every single case, thus don't bother us about it".

    Square's Unpaid Volunteer Policeforce working overtime for no reason is honestly cringe...
    Come on, people defend SE and swat away complaints while paying for the honor to do so. It's not that surprising there are people going "Teacher, teacher, that person has chat bubbles on their screenshot!" lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Come on, people defend SE and swat away complaints while paying for the honor to do so. It's not that surprising there are people going "Teacher, teacher, that person has chat bubbles on their screenshot!" lol
    Chat bubbles are cheating too ! Imagine the insane advantage over "normal" players, oh my, better ban them all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebraoracle View Post
    You know who has no say in drawing the line? The witch hunters who act like they are Square's personal police.
    100%

    Quote Originally Posted by Raoabolic View Post
    Come on, people defend SE and swat away complaints while paying for the honor to do so. It's not that surprising there are people going "Teacher, teacher, that person has chat bubbles on their screenshot!" lol
    This is sadly too true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Chat bubbles are cheating too ! Imagine the insane advantage over "normal" players, oh my, better ban them all!
    I'll have you know that chat bubbles give the immense in-game advantage of uh... cheating in an unspecified way!
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    Last edited by AwesomeJr44; 02-19-2023 at 02:38 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AwesomeJr44 View Post
    I'll have you know that chat bubbles give the immense in-game advantage of uh... cheating in an unspecified way!
    Clearly people are going to use chat bubbles to announce mechanics without people having to look at the chat box
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Clearly people are going to use chat bubbles to announce mechanics without people having to look at the chat box
    The code has been cracked, purge all the records!
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