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    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    That wouldn't happen either way. The game has a known botting issue, either for farming drops, dungeon items, gathering nodes or Eureka. SE purges botters in waves. They haven't removed loot drops, gathering nodes or Eureka so far. This likely won't happen with Ultimate fights either.

    But they do work on retaliating against people who actively cheat, especially the ones where there's immediate proof. Or at least, remove their clear in this case.
    Which is what's always happened: They've always acted on cheaters whenever something's happened with direct proof of it. Because those are the guys they pay attention to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    Yes, and so is crossing a red light for pedestrians even if it's 3 AM and there's no cars around, so ? Do you see cops going all over the place arresting or giving citations to people crossing red pedestrian lights when there's no cars around ? No. Except overzealous cops.

    Is it agaisnt TOS ? Yes, does anyone care aside from a small minority ? No.
    I've seen bicycles pulled over for speeding AND running lights.

    There's MANY places where if you get spotted, you're getting ticketed, and cops in the US tend to be very bored and ticket hungry.
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    What was this thread about again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoodcat View Post
    What was this thread about again?
    It's about anti-mod/anti-cheat people constantly failing to understand anything people they disagree with have to say and then arguing against stuff that isn't being argued for. The thread's been rife with it. It's particularly funny when they accuse the other side of twisting stuff or refusing to understand or whatever when they're literally doing the same thing - it happens in every single one of these threads without fail.
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    From what I can see, ultimate titles are only valid for a month from release. After that period, whoever is wearing the title has a high chance of being a clown. It's actually easier to assume anyone who's wearing an ultimate title is a clown rather than a skilled player nowadays, pretty sad.
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    Or maybe just wear a title that suits you as a person or you personally like instead of wearing something only to show off. No one gives a shit about your legend title. Everyone accomplish goals in this game, clearing ultimate doesn't make you a better person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Meowdyj View Post
    Or maybe just wear a title that suits you as a person or you personally like instead of wearing something only to show off. No one gives a shit about your legend title. Everyone accomplish goals in this game, clearing ultimate doesn't make you a better person.
    Or maybe people can just use whatever title they want and are allowed to be proud of what they accomplished and someone claiming on a forum that something is only valid within a certain time frame or they should stop showing off doesn't mean anything.
    Yes, some people enjoy afking on the newest savage mount, with a Legend title or Necromancer title on etc and there's nothing wrong with it. Why are people so bothered by someone choosing to wear a Legend title anyway? Do they ruin your immersion with it? Does it suddenly force you to skip cutscenes? Do they make expert bosses enrage and wipe the party?
    Just let them enjoy the game and wear things they're proud of. You're not the judge of what someone is allowed to be openly proud of or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    Or maybe people can just use whatever title they want and are allowed to be proud of what they accomplished and someone claiming on a forum that something is only valid within a certain time frame or they should stop showing off doesn't mean anything.
    Yes, some people enjoy afking on the newest savage mount, with a Legend title or Necromancer title on etc and there's nothing wrong with it. Why are people so bothered by someone choosing to wear a Legend title anyway? Do they ruin your immersion with it? Does it suddenly force you to skip cutscenes? Do they make expert bosses enrage and wipe the party?
    Just let them enjoy the game and wear things they're proud of. You're not the judge of what someone is allowed to be openly proud of or not.
    Well in that case you would be wearing a title that suits you personally and not just one to show off with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rilifane View Post
    Or maybe people can just use whatever title they want and are allowed to be proud of what they accomplished and someone claiming on a forum that something is only valid within a certain time frame or they should stop showing off doesn't mean anything.
    Yes, some people enjoy afking on the newest savage mount, with a Legend title or Necromancer title on etc and there's nothing wrong with it. Why are people so bothered by someone choosing to wear a Legend title anyway? Do they ruin your immersion with it? Does it suddenly force you to skip cutscenes? Do they make expert bosses enrage and wipe the party?
    Just let them enjoy the game and wear things they're proud of. You're not the judge of what someone is allowed to be openly proud of or not.
    Wear whatever you want, idrc. That's not really the point of why people have issues with the Legend title, it's that it's very hard to know who actually did it or who just paid for a clear and had someone else pilot their account. Just because it's not as advertised as it used to be on the PF doesn't mean that discords don't exist where those people moved to, to continue conducting their business. If you're proud of that title, cool. If you put in the weeks/months of effort to clear it yourself, even cooler. If you paid for it though and are acting like a big shot who put the same amount of work into it as those who did legit clears...that's where people have the issue. That side of the game exists because people want the rewards but don't have time or care enough to put in the effort. It just has a negative stereotype that in my opinion is warranted and requires the person holding it to back up the weight of that title in other content or be associated with an RMT clear.

    Hot take maybe but, I feel like that is a bigger example of cheating than someone using a plugin to make their UI look a bit neater. At least the person there is actually using their character and not taking a nap while another 8-man does it for them.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 02-20-2023 at 10:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    Wear whatever you want, idrc. That's not really the point of why people have issues with the Legend title, it's that it's very hard to know who actually did it or who just paid for a clear and had someone else pilot their account. Just because it's not as advertised as it used to be on the PF doesn't mean that discords don't exist where those people moved to, to continue conducting their business. If you're proud of that title, cool. If you put in the weeks/months of effort to clear it yourself, even cooler. If you paid for it though and are acting like a big shot who put the same amount of work into it as those who did legit clears...that's where people have the issue. That side of the game exists because people want the rewards but don't have time or care enough to put in the effort. It just has a negative stereotype that in my opinion is warranted and requires the person holding it to back up the weight of that title in other content or be associated with an RMT clear.

    Hot take maybe but, I feel like that is a bigger example of cheating than someone using a plugin to make their UI look a bit neater. At least the person there is actually using their character and not taking a nap while another 8-man does it for them.
    I actually agree with this, I've hated the selling of content for years and the effect it can have. It speaks volumes when a Heaven's Legend can't do boss relative in Barbie.
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