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    Quote Originally Posted by PeaTearGriffin View Post
    Well now I'm confused because it says that "Dynamis is a far weaker form of energy, and is almost completely nullified by Aether in equal quantities." They don't interact with each other so to speak but they can cancel each other out according to the game. Here's a link to the website that I'm getting my information from https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Dynamis

    Theoretically this means that a ton of aether could blast meteion away because dynamis can be completely nullified and cancelled out by aether even in equal quantities. Also you raise another good point. Hydaelyn, using the logic that aether nullifies dynamis, and if she was able to, could've gone out into space and killed meteion too. That would've made one hell of a cutscene.
    Problem number one is that you're reading the wiki. It's been known to be incorrect before and even on that page mentions things that have never been confirmed as if it's fact. Unless I missed something somewhere, there's been no mention that the DNC quest had to do with dynamis specifically and that's just theories. Those quests existed before the writers even conceptualized dynamis as being a thing that exists.

    Ultimately through the story we're led to believe that for whatever reason they can't just blow Meteion away with aether. I'm not even sure what the point of arguing over it is because the writers who made up how aether and dynamis work can just make up anything on the spot to justify the story we got. If it was possible, we or someone else would've done it. The Ancients couldn't do anything at all themselves except to stall it with a shield and even if they flew to meet Meteion, the unshielded Ancients would get Final Days'd again. If Zodiark flew away to fight Meteion, then the unshielded planet would get Final Days'd again. If aether could smack Endsinger down, Hydaelyn would've just left and swatted her like a fly.


    And again with the Ancients doing dynamis, people keep saying there's examples of it, but no one has actually pointed out where in an instance that is actually described as dynamis use, while the story itself outright states they just can't do it. Hermes was able to make something that can handle dynamis in the same way that humans can make an airplane but they can't expect to fly by themselves. As far as the Elpis flowers, all they did was react to Hermes' state of emotion and change color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Problem number one is that you're reading the wiki. It's been known to be incorrect before and even on that page mentions things that have never been confirmed as if it's fact.
    We at least know that the wiki is correct on aether nullifying dynamis because Hermes says to the Wol, Venat, Emet, and Hythlodaeus in one of the cutscenes on Elpis: "As you know, Aether, in essence, negates dynamis." So we at least know for certain that is true.

    sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSOzhX7-d64
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    Ultimately through the story we're led to believe that for whatever reason they can't just blow Meteion away with aether.
    I personally didn't hear or see that written anywhere during the msq but if that dialogue exists I'd sure like to read up on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by MikkoAkure View Post
    I'm not even sure what the point of arguing over it is because the writers who made up how aether and dynamis work can just make up anything on the spot to justify the story we got. If it was possible, we or someone else would've done it. The Ancients couldn't do anything at all themselves except to stall it with a shield and even if they flew to meet Meteion, the unshielded Ancients would get Final Days'd again. If Zodiark flew away to fight Meteion, then the unshielded planet would get Final Days'd again. If aether could smack Endsinger down, Hydaelyn would've just left and swatted her like a fly.
    I didn't really see this as an argument but rather a discussion on what other paths the game could've taken. It's like you said yourself "the writers can just make up anything on the spot to justify the story we got" which leaves the possibility of different solutions to the story. A vessel with an aether shield that prevents the ancients from becoming affected by dynamis as they travel to the edge of the universe; technology that can hold tremendous amounts of Zodiark's aether so zodiark doesn't have to be physically present to slay meteion and he can just hang back on etheirys to keep the shield going, and other alternate endings. If aether could be used on Endsinger then hydaelyn could definitely kill her as well and I can see that being a badass ending as well.
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